Dog Breeders of BYC~A Few Quick Questions~Parent Pics pg 2

[The Wolf Queen]

Oh and as long as im at it id like to add a color genetics question as well

The male is a long haired and tri colored, the female is a short haired tri colored with all white legs and a big white neck ring (also has black and white spotted skin on her tummy if it helps). I dont know either of their genetic backrounds. What will I most likely get?

 

[tharrell]

I'm so glad to hear that you have people you can contact in case something goes wrong! Theae guys can just have so many problems. And you might want to crate them separate when you aren't there because even though they get along great, when the male successfully breeds her she feels pain and cound very well freak out and drag him arounf which can cause serious injury to the males penis. Dogs actually have a bone in their penis called the OS penis that can break in this situation. Always better to be safe than sorry and it has nothing to do with their relationship. Also the male isn't getting an erection because at 2 days in your female isn't ready to breed.

As for color the best thing about breeding chis is that you never know what you will get! The white blaze and legs is known as Irish markings and is very sought after in chihuahuas. DId you say that the Irish marked one is long or short haired? If longhaired, you will get all longhaired puppies. If short, you could get longs if one of the dogs parents was longhaired. Do a search for chihuahua coat and color genetics and you will get alot of good sites. And the spots are called ticking and won't show up on the puppies until they are a few weeks old, just like dalmations.

 

[The Wolf Queen]

The female is the tri colored irish and she is short haired. Although I dont know if I would say she has a blaze or not. The big white ring on her neck goes to about the back of her head where her ears start and she has a long thin diamond that starts a little above the eyes and end a lil before her ears start. Cool I have a sought after dog lol. BTW the male has a creamish white face with light eyebrows but the main area isnt on his whole face more around the muzzle area I guess (wow dont I sound experienced lol...NOT).

 

[The Wolf Queen]

I figured since were talking about this id post pix of the parents so here they are.

Faux (pronounced Fox) my stud is either pure chi or 1/2 chi 1/2 pom or pappillon (try to picture him with his pointed ears up, sorry I couldnt get him with the ears up but he refused lol)

Here is my b*tch Mocha in her diaper lol.

 

[tharrell]

Ok, just to clarify color, your girl is sable with Irish markings, and I don't know anything about pom ( which he looks to me) colors, but he looks like a red or red fawn from what I can see from the picture so that will change the colors these two could produce. Sables are born very dark at birth, and lighten up as they age. Your girl also looks like she has a bit of a saddle on her back as well. Your boy looks big, but obviously pictures can be deceiving. If he is bigger than your female I would use extreme caution in breeding these two because of whelping issues. You can always find an outside stud if you really want puppies from her. But like I saud, it could just be the picture making him look bigger!

 

[The Wolf Queen]

tharrell wrote: Ok, just to clarify color, your girl is sable with Irish markings, and I don't know anything about pom ( which he looks to me) colors, but he looks like a red or red fawn from what I can see from the picture so that will change the colors these two could produce. Sables are born very dark at birth, and lighten up as they age. Your girl also looks like she has a bit of a saddle on her back as well. Your boy looks big, but obviously pictures can be deceiving. If he is bigger than your female I would use extreme caution in breeding these two because of whelping issues. You can always find an outside stud if you really want puppies from her. But like I saud, it could just be the picture making him look bigger!

To be honest he is slightly larger than her, but my friends are there to help me and to tell me whether or not she will need a C section or not. Also im nervous but have slightly more confidence cuz the accidental father of her first litter was 2-3 times her size and both the pups were freagin big but she didnt have any problems. Im not sure if Mocha has a saddle but the black are goes all the way down her back and as a pup she was actually lighter . Faux im not possitive on breed but what would he be considered by chi standards?
PS thanks for all the info tharrell, I really appreciate it

 

[tharrell]

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To be honest he is slightly larger than her, but my friends are there to help me and to tell me whether or not she will need a C section or not. Also im nervous but have slightly more confidence cuz the accidental father of her first litter was 2-3 times her size and both the pups were freagin big but she didnt have any problems. Im not sure if Mocha has a saddle but the black are goes all the way down her back and as a pup she was actually lighter . Faux im not possitive on breed but what would he be considered by chi standards?
PS thanks for all the info tharrell, I really appreciate it

It's good that she has free whelped larger pups before, but be sure you learn the signs of distress during labor, and have your vet on speed dial. Remember they are always there to answer questions and it's free to just talk to them! I have some great books and websites I can tell you about if you are interested. You can never have enough knowledge about something IMO. Chi colors can change dramatically over time. If you have a picture of Mocha when she was a puppy or younger atleast I could give you a better idea on what her color is " officially". I'm not positive on Faux's color because I can't see much more than his face but I would say either red or red fawn with white markings. He could be sable though, can't quite tell because of the angle. Are you sure he's part chi? I would look at him and see pom more than anything but I suppose you never know what genes will show in a mixed breed dog.

 

[cassie]

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The change in the color of the discharge is a natural progression of the heat cycle. It has nothing whatever to do with the presence or absence of a male. She will not accept the male until she is ready. And that is in the second week (usually). Her heat period will be exactly the same whether there is a male around or not.

 

[The Wolf Queen]

Sure all names of books and sites are welcome, multiple vets on speed dial, sorry I dont have a pic of Mocha as a pup but imagine her slightly lighter with less black, sorry I dont have a better pic of Faux, he moves too too much, but he is basically the same color as mocha but is more cream than white(almost white but not quite, so eggshellish I guess), more red than brown and has less black than her but still a definit line down his back. Also his ears are dark brownish. Yes im possitive he is at least 1/2 chi. He is just sorta tall long legged and gangly lol and actually the main reason for this litter is to try to get pups that look like the stud. I have a few other friend that want ones like that lol. Thats how we got Mocha. One of the chi breeder friends of mine had her for a while and offered to let us breed Faux to him and we thought she went into heat (false alarm

) she came to our house for a night I fell in love with her lol, and my friend asked if we would like to keep her. She just has the sweetest personality and so duz Faux so these pups will have great personalitys like their parent

. Did I for got to answer anything? lol

 

[BorderKelpie]

Faux looks pom or mostly pom to me. Do you have homes lined up for the puppies yet? You may want to start finding them already. Make sure you have back ups as well. I don't know why, but I've even had people forfiet deposits once it was time for pups to go home.
Best wishes in your endeaver.