Dog rips both her wings off!!!

[kinnip]

I wouldn't use the rubber band method. When doctors/vets repair damaged tissue the first thing they do is to remove all dead tissue. This means cutting it down until you see real, raw, live tissue. Dead flesh is asking for infection.

 

[The Chicken Lady]

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I really agree with this. Imagine getting your own arms ripped off and then having someone treat the wounds with iodine and giving you a little aspirin for the pain. Just because she can't cry or tell you she is hurting doesn't mean she isn't in excruciating pain. To be honest, not taking her to a vet seems extremely cruel to me, almost like torture.

 

[dlhunicorn]

This is why I asked the member to post a photo... (to see how much flesh it was "hanging on" by)

Re PAIN:

http://www.grandin.com/welfare/fear.pain.stress.html
"....We agree that mammals from rats, cats, and dogs would have similar degrees of suffering when subjected to a painful procedure. However, it is likely that birds may experience pain differently. Recent work by Gentle (1997) show that decebrate chickens will still pain guard legs injected with a substance that causes pain. The results suggest that in chickens, pain from chronic arthritis is organized in the brainstem. However, if the chicken’s beak is trimmed and the frontal area of the brain is removed, pain guarding and other pain related behaviors are absent. But, if the beak is trimmed six days after the frontal area of the brain is removed, the chicken continues to pain guard (Gentle, et al 1997). It appears that chickens are unable to process two emotions simultaneously. Chickens may suffer from chronic pain when they are undisturbed, but when disturbed or frightened, the pain ceases and the chicken can only attend to the fear (Gentle and Corr, 1995). Prelaying behavior and feeding motivation can completely suppress pain coping behaviors in arthritic chickens (Gentle and Corr, 1995; Wylie and Gentle, 1998). Turkeys with degenerative hip disorders reduce spontaneous activity and sexual activity (Duncan et al 1991). The authors conclude that the different systems in a bird’s brain may be less integrated than in higher mammals. A bird may be more mono channel and operate only one system at a time. ....."

 

[Msbear]

mypicklebird said "A dog that will get out of it's pen and attack farm animals, is just as likely to run down the street and encounter humans or someone else's pets."

I have to agree. I have experience with lots of breeds including some very dear pitbulls and think they do get a bum rap but it is because of dogs like yours that this is so. I had a rescue rotti that was my best friend and she wound up biting a girlfriend of mine in the face. Thankfully no serious damage was done but, from then on, I knew I had a dangerous animal on my hands. She passed two years later of bone cancer and, though I was traumatized, I felt very relieved not to be burdened with that responsibility any longer. Your dog is clearly uncontrollable and capable of doing serious damage to some one or other animal. Mine at least stopped when I told her!! Keeping him in a pen is not the answer. I know you don't want the bad dog ju ju right now but I think that's just because you already know this. When these types of attack dogs (that's what their bred for -guarding and fighting) are uncontrollable, they shouldn't be permitted to be kept as pets especially if they can't be controlled by their owners.. If I were your neighbor, I'd be very concerned.

If I were your chicken, I'd be terrified Try talking to your man and seeing if he will part with the dog. It may save you a huge lawsuit in the future.

 

[purr]

dogs who attack an animal that is clearly in its mind prey is not necessarily going to attack anything else.
If the dog was chasing a robin or a squirrel across the yard nobody would say anything. How do you explain to a dog that the jumping flying thing running away from it is not prey.
its a chicken you can eat it but the dog can't. the OP has done the best they can $hit happens.

 

[chickenzoo]

I can't remember the dosage of Baytril pill form, but for my Ameracana the vet said one pill. It was the same dosage pill given for a cat. My Ameracana weights 8lbs.

 

[SpottedCrow]

I'm glad she's still hanging...I'll send prayers to the Chicken Gods for dear Sadie.

 

[Msbear]

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you are absolutely right about the first part. The problem is that this dog doesn't know the difference betweem a family pet (chicken and a dog toy) and doesn't care and doesn't listen when told to stop! If this animal thinks the family chickens are "prey" then either the chickens need to go or the dog. It's not fair to expose other animals to this violence.

And are you going to vouch for this dog??without even knowing it that it could or would not harm a running, laughing, jumping child or other jumping, hopping, barking little dog the way it did this flapping, squawking bird....Come on! The problem is that this animal in UNCONTROLLABLE. Did you miss that minor part of the story?

 

[Zookeeper9000]

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you are absolutely right about the first part. The problem is that this dog doesn't know the difference betweem a family pet (chicken and a dog toy) and doesn't care and doesn't listen when told to stop! If this animal thinks the family chickens are "prey" then either the chickens need to go or the dog. It's not fair to expose other animals to this violence.

And are you going to vouch for this dog??without even knowing it that it could or would not harm a running, laughing, jumping child or other jumping, hopping, barking little dog the way it did this flapping, squawking bird....Come on! The problem is that this animal in UNCONTROLLABLE. Did you miss that minor part of the story?

Well you must of missed the part where the OP asked for everyone to keep their dog opinions to themselves. It just amazes me the way people twist and turn a post to read what they think it should so they can be on the almighty attack. She said the dog got out of the fence and had never got out of the fence before that doesn't mean this dog lived in a cage or fence and never got out. She said it was her hubbies dog and that in the passion of the moment she couldn't get it to stop. That doesn't mean that the dog is agressive or vicious.

My point how can you attack purr for missing something when you and a few others just decided to add your own facts to the story true or not.

The very least that you and a few others could of done was to respect the poster and not bring up the dog, and help her with what she asked for help on.


Now please respect her and leave the dog out of it from now on.

 

[BarkerChickens]

I am so sorry to hear about your chicken! She sounds like she is doing well given the circumstances. Two of our hens got attacked today...by miniature pischers (not ours!). They are pretty badly injured, but I think they will pull through as well. For small dogs, they sure did some damage.

As for the shock collars. We have three dogs (who were in our room sleeping when our drama occurred...otherwise I think our dogs would have protected the chickens). While two of our dogs adapted to the chickens well, one of our dogs (a pit mix) was a bit too curious (though not necessarily aggressive). After a short while with the shock collar, she learned to be nice to the chickens. When we are gone the chickens are locked in their run, but when we are home the chickens, dogs and cat all roam the backyard together...no problems! While I don't expect most people are able to have this much luck, I do believe the shock collar will help. The most important piece of advice I can give though is put the collar on for a few days first. That way the dog does not associate the shock with you. Also, when disciplining the dog with the shock collar, do not yell at the dog. This will also associate you and the shock together. Good luck and hope your chicken does well.

I must also add, that I do not advocate shock collars in all cases. A very aggressive dog or a very sensitive dog are probably not the types of dogs that I'd recommend shock collars for.