Dog thread!🐾

[SpotTheCat]

Our oldest Golden Denver will bite if someone invades. This is the only time she barks or growls. Like some kids were walking on the road coming to our house one night well i was taking her out then returnedlater after this happened and as soon as we walked out they ran off. Yes i had her off leash but she doesnt leave our yard ever without a leash on. She ran up to the road, started barking and scared the kids off. She usually loves kids, but i know she can sense when people arent good. She will stand her guard to protect me or my family. And this is the only aggression i allow.

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I wonder where the line is with whats protection behaviour and whats just aggression


I think there isn’t one type of protection behaviour in dogs. I think there is territorial and actual protection

Twiggy barks, growls and puffs up at people around our house, she does this to everyone she doesn’t know. I would call her territorial since I don’t think she will actually protect me, I think she protect her territory, her cats and her sheep


Fanta has never shown any aggressive behaviour, unless it was to a object when she was younger . I think she has watched some people more but then again I don’t think I am every in a situation or place she would need to show any aggression. I have noticed she has a specific way of looking at things I don’t know how to explain it well but when she sees anything she is unsure of she has to pause and have a good look at it, when she spots it she pauses and stands very stiffly. once she has had a good look at it she continues like normal most of the time, there was the occasional puppy fit! Pikelet so far has not done that behaviour once! I have also seen other territorial and protective dogs do it as well (Twiggy does it but less then Fanta)


then there are reactive and aggressive dogs that I don’t think can properly be protective since I think they are thinking of themselves and not of helping others. They might bite someone in front of you but I think if they where safely away they wouldn’t ran to help you. since they feel like they are in danger they can’t think about the situation rationally, while a protective dog that isn’t reactive can be a lot more rational and won’t over react or run away


I would really like to know exactly how personal and police protection dogs temperaments are chosen

 

[fluffycrow]

Shelties and pyrenean shepherds are usally over 20lbs

Pyrenean shepherds should be between 15-30 lbs and shelties between 15-25. I think you'll find lots there that are under 20 lbs. But if you're too picky, here are some more. Cineco Dell'Etna (females), Russell terrier, parson Russell terrier, and of course papillon as mentioned before

 

[fluffycrow]

Also prey drive

Notice how he doesn't bother the horses, because he knows that the horses aren't his job.
Just dogs being dogs; being the dogs that they were bred to be!

Also prey drive

 

[Carters Chick House]

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My Sammy. Under 30# but not sure what he weighs actually. Maybe I'll remember to weigh him tomorrow.

What a great looking dog. I adore collies.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

this has nothing really to do with the quote


I wonder where the line is with whats protection behaviour and whats just aggression


I think there isn’t one type of protection behaviour in dogs. I think there is territorial and actual protection

Twiggy barks, growls and puffs up at people around our house, she does this to everyone she doesn’t know. I would call her territorial since I don’t think she will actually protect me, I think she protect her territory, her cats and her sheep


Fanta has never shown any aggressive behaviour, unless it was to a object when she was younger . I think she has watched some people more but then again I don’t think I am every in a situation or place she would need to show any aggression. I have noticed she has a specific way of looking at things I don’t know how to explain it well but when she sees anything she is unsure of she has to pause and have a good look at it, when she spots it she pauses and stands very stiffly. once she has had a good look at it she continues like normal most of the time, there was the occasional puppy fit! Pikelet so far has not done that behaviour once! I have also seen other territorial and protective dogs do it as well (Twiggy does it but less then Fanta)


then there are reactive and aggressive dogs that I don’t think can properly be protective since I think they are thinking of themselves and not of helping others. They might bite someone in front of you but I think if they where safely away they wouldn’t ran to help you. since they feel like they are in danger they can’t think about the situation rationally, while a protective dog that isn’t reactive can be a lot more rational and won’t over react or run away


I would really like to know exactly how personal and police protection dogs temperaments are chosen

I would guess that maybe it depends on how long it takes for them to become okay around strangers? Like except for a few people, my girl accepts new people into her home rather quickly (10-15 minutes if they leave her alone and let her come to them), and even when she's not happy with them, she just barks and raises her hackles. She has never actually bitten anyone.

I would think maybe an aggressive dog will be more liable to bite, and not as easy to warm up to new people?

 

[SpotTheCat]

I would guess that maybe it depends on how long it takes for them to become okay around strangers? Like except for a few people, my girl accepts new people into her home rather quickly (10-15 minutes if they leave her alone and let her come to them), and even when she's not happy with them, she just barks and raises her hackles. She has never actually bitten anyone.

I would think maybe an aggressive dog will be more liable to bite, and not as easy to warm up to new people?

I would call that fearful behaviour, that is similar to Twiggy.



to be more clear when I say protective I mean the drive thats bred in to dogs used for personal protection. They are normally are extremely outgoing and confident dogs, they don’t seem to show aggressive behaviour unless someone is actually acting threatening, I could be wrong though .giant schnauzer are known for really liking people even from working protection lines


so if a dog growls or barks and someone who isn’t actually doing anything threatening that they just sense/think aren’t good people is it protective of its owner or just feeling unsafe for itself?


my thoughts are all ways a mess

 

[ShrekDawg]

I absolutely agree with this. I have met super aggressive or anxious dogs thats should be gentle and kind but act aggressive or are super anxious.

Yup

 

[ShrekDawg]

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My Sammy. Under 30# but not sure what he weighs actually. Maybe I'll remember to weigh him tomorrow.

Does Sammy bark much? I’ve heard Shelties are quite vocal.

 

[fluffycrow]

Does Sammy bark much? I’ve heard Shelties are quite vocal.

I've heard the same. I actually wonder if silkens have inherited that trait

 

[ShrekDawg]

I've heard the same. I actually wonder if silkens have inherited that trait

Wait are silkens from shelties?