Dorking Importation Project

[Hangtown Farms]

The biggest hurdle in all of this is getting the farm certified. If it was easy, then there will be eggs on planes every day. The cost of getting eggs from the farm to the incubator is not the big expense

Flock of origin veterinary health certification statements

The health certificate must be in English or a complete English translation must be provided. The veterinary health certificate must accompany the hatching eggs while in transit and must state that:
the flock or flocks of origin were found upon inspection to be free from evidence of communicable diseases of poultry;
no exotic Newcastle disease has occurred on the premises of origin or on adjoining premises during the 90 days immediately preceding the date of movement of the eggs from such region; and
as far as it has been possible to determine, such flock or flocks were not exposed to such disease during the preceding 90 days.

The flock of origin of hatching eggs imported from all countries except Canada are required to test serologically negative for egg drop syndrome (adenovirus 127), test negative on environmental culture for Salmonella enteritidis, and test serologically negative for viral turkey rhinotracheitis (avian pneumovirus) by a government approved laboratory. The flock of origin of hatching eggs from chicken-like poultry imported from Canada must be under a surveillance program similar to that of the USDA's National Poultry Improvement Plan.

The health certificates that accompany hatching egg shipments must indicate that:
Flocks of origin for the hatching eggs were not vaccinated against any H5 or H7 subtype of avian influenza.
The shipment will not transit through any regions where APHIS considers highly pathogenic avian influenza to exist, as listed here on this web page.
The flocks of origin have been vaccinated against Newcastle disease (avian paramyxovirus) at least 21 days prior to export, using vaccines that do not contain any velogenic strains of Newcastle disease virus. OR:
The flocks of origin have not been vaccinated against Newcastle disease.

The vet certificate needs to be done at a local level in concert with the British Govt Vet

yes. it makes it a lot easier if the person over there has done this before as well.

 

[ki4got]

as for multiple shipments, I don't think that's going to be possible without paying the importation permit fees each time, but the vet costs would be the biggest chunk of the costs I think... depending on the other parts, it might be worth while to have additional eggs going to other parts of the country for additional breeders to work on the lines.

but first we need to find out the exact requirements at each step and associated costs, then we can think about that later, and also depending on the funding available.

 

[SusanCatt]

We had briefly discussed canada but it hasnt gone anywhere. The genetics we need for Dorkings are in England

 

[Hangtown Farms]

USDA - APHIS - Import

Poultry Hatching Eggs

Procedures for Importing Poultry Hatching Eggs into the United States

ADVISORY: Until further notice, live avian commodities (including eggs for hatching) from the following countries or regions have been prohibited entry to the United States due to the presence of highly pathogenic avian influenza: Afghanistan, Albania, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Benin, Bhutan, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Cambodia, Djibouti, Egypt, Ghana, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire), Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Laos, Macau, Malaysia, Myanmar, Nepal, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Palestinian Autonomous Territories, People's Republic of China, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, South Korea, South Sudan, Sudan, Taipei Chinese/Taiwan, Thailand, Togo, Turkey, Ukraine, and Vietnam.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture defines poultry as chickens, doves, ducks, geese, grouse, guinea fowl, partridges, pea fowl, pheasants, pigeons, quail, swans, and turkeys (including hatching eggs of these species).

General Requirements

All hatching eggs of poultry imported into the United States must be accompanied by a USDA import permit. Submit the import application, VS Form 17-129, to receive the import permit or transit permit. Imports from Canada via a land border port do not need an import permit.
A current veterinary health certificate issued by a full-time salaried veterinarian and endorsed by the competent authority responsible for animal health of the national government in the exporting country of origin.
Importers should submit the application and the processing fee for a permit by check, money order, charge card or by providing a USDA user fee account. Payment must accompany the application. If changes need to be made for a permit after it has been issued, there is an additional fee. Current fees can be found here.
Fees apply if arrival is during regular working hours (approximately 8:00 AM - 4:00 PM, Monday through Friday), and prior notification has been given. Overtime charges apply if the shipment arrives before or after these hours. In addition, USDA port veterinarians are not stationed full-time at each port of entry, prior notification is critical to the import process.
Flock of origin veterinary health certification statements

The original veterinary health certificate must be in English or have the English translation, and must accompany the hatching eggs while in transit. It must state that:

The flock(s) of origin were found upon inspection to be free from evidence of communicable diseases of poultry;
No exotic Newcastle disease has occurred on the premises of origin or on adjoining premises during the 90 days immediately preceding the date of movement of the eggs from such region; and
As far as it has been possible to determine, such flock(s) were not exposed to such disease during the preceding 90 days.
At least 5 percent (%) or a minimum of 150 birds from the flock of origin were negative for egg drop syndrome (EDS 76).
The flock of origin is negative for Salmonella enteritidis (SE) by environmental culture, and there is no evidence or knowledge of SE present in the flock.
The flock(s) of origin for the hatching eggs were not vaccinated against any H5 or H7 subtype of avian influenza. The shipment will not transit through any regions where APHIS considers highly pathogenic avian influenza to exist, as listed here.
The flocks of origin have been vaccinated against Newcastle disease (avian paramyxovirus) at least 21 days prior to export, using vaccines that do not contain any velogenic strains of Newcastle disease virus.

Note: If the flock(s) of origin have not been vaccinated against Newcastle disease, the health certificate should indicate this status.

The hatching eggs were cleaned and sanitized as soon as possible after collection using an approved-for use-sanitizing agent, in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions. Hatching eggs have been packed in clean/unused packing material.
The flock(s) of origin is negative for Avian Metapneumovirus (also known as Turkey Rhinotracheitis (TRT). At least 30 birds per house tested serologically negative.
Flock(s) of origin for the hatching eggs were not vaccinated against any H5 or H7 subtype of avian influenza.
The shipment will not transit through any regions where APHIS considers highly pathogenic avian influenza to exist, as listed here on this web page.
The flock(s) of origin have been vaccinated against Newcastle disease (avian paramyxovirus) at least 21 days prior to export, using vaccines that do not contain any velogenic strains of Newcastle disease virus. OR:
The flock(s) of origin have not been vaccinated against Newcastle disease.
The flock(s) of origin of hatching eggs from chicken-like poultry imported from Canada must be under a surveillance program for salmonella recognized by the Canadian Competent authority.

Hatching eggs are required to be quarantined for a minimum of 30 days upon entry into the United States unless they export from a country recognized by APHIS to be Newcastle disease free.
Requirements for importing poultry hatching eggs differ for eggs being imported from countries designated free of Newcastle disease than those not designated as free of Newcastle disease.

Poultry hatching eggs imported from countries designated as free of END

The list of countries which APHIS considers as free of Newcastle disease can be found here.
Hatching eggs imported from these countries are not required to be quarantined. However, the hatching eggs must be accompanied by a veterinary health certificate issued by a national government veterinarian of the exporting country as well as by a USDA import permit Hatching eggs originating in the EU-25 Poultry Trade Region (PTR) must have either of the following bulleted statements on all hatching eggs health certificate:

The consignment did not originate from or travel through, any zone within the EU-25 PTR that were restricted for outbreaks of Newcastle disease or HPAI in commercial poultry for the following period of time, whichever is later: 1). Until the restrictions were lifted by the national competent authority; or 2). 90 days after depopulation of all affected premises, followed by cleaning and disinfection of the last affected premises, in that zone. [note: only 1) applies if the restrictions had been placed for Newcastle disease or HPAI in racing pigeons, backyard flocks or wild birds.]

The consignment did not originate from, but did travel under official seal through, zones that were restricted for outbreaks of Newcastle disease or HPAI in commercial poultry for the following period of time, whichever is later: 1). until the restrictions were lifted by the national competent authority; or 2). 90 days after depopulation of all affected premises, followed by cleaning and disinfection of the last affected premises, in that zone. [Note: only 1) applies if the restrictions had been placed for Newcastle disease or HPAI in racing pigeons, backyard flocks or wild birds.][Note: under this option, the seal numbers must be noted in the health certificate signed by the certifying veterinarian, with an official veterinarian verifying the seals for such shipments were intact at the time of embarkation.]
Poultry hatching eggs imported from countries not designated as free of Newcastle free

In addition to the required veterinary health certificate and USDA import permit, importation of hatching eggs from countries not designated by the USDA to be free of Newcastle disease are restricted as follows:

Eggs must be transported from the port of entry to the hatchery in a vehicle sealed by the USDA.
Eggs must be hatched and brooded under the supervision of the Area Veterinarian in Charge (AVIC) in the State of destination. The hatchery must meet certain biosecurity standards and be inspected and approved by the AVIC prior to issuance of the import permit.
The poultry from such eggs must remain in quarantine for not less than 30 days following hatch.
During quarantine, the hatching eggs and poultry from such eggs are subject to any inspections, disinfections, and diagnostic testing as may be required by the USDA to determine their freedom from communicable diseases of poultry.
Poultry hatching eggs imported from Canada

Poultry hatching eggs imported from Canada must be accompanied by a veterinary health certificate issued by a Canadian government veterinarian. However, no quarantine is required for hatching eggs of Canadian origin. Those hatching eggs imported through a U.S.-Canadian land border port do not require a USDA import permit, whereas eggs entering the United States from Canada via air do require a USDA import permit.

The import permit application (VS Form 17-129) can be downloaded from the Internet at:http://www.aphis.usda.gov/library/forms/index.shtml#vs or by contacting us at:
USDA, APHIS, VS
National Center for Import and Export
4700 River Road, Unit 39
Riverdale, MD 20737
(301) 851-3300 Telephone
(301) 734-6402 Fax

Fish and Wildlife Service Permit Information
In the United States, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service regulates the importation of avian species (including their hatching eggs) protected by various national and international acts and treaties such as the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES), the Wild Bird Conservation Act of 1992, the Migratory Bird Act, and the Endangered Species Act. To determine if the hatching eggs you wish to import are regulated by the USFWS, you can visit their web site at: http://permits.fws.gov/ or contact them at USFWS, Office of Management Authority, 4401 North Fairfax Drive, Room 420, Arlington, VA 22203, (800) 358-2104 (within the United States), or (703) 358-2104.

Please visit the FWS web site at: http://permits.fws.gov/ to obtain more information and the permit application. If you have questions you can contact the FWS at (800) 358-2104. Overseas calls should be placed to (703) 358-2104.

How to Contact Us

If you need additional materials about importing hatching eggs of poultry or other birds into the United States, please contact us at:
USDA, APHIS, VS
National Center for Import and Export
4700 River Road, Unit 39
Riverdale, MD 20737
(301) 851-3300 Telephone
(301) 734-6402 Fax

 

[Hangtown Farms]

We had briefly discussed canada but it hasnt gone anywhere. The genetics we need for Dorkings are in England

ok. I wasn't sure if maybe they had there own import. I posted info that I had gotten From my friend Jewelee thank had imported Penedesenca previously

 

[ozexpat]

as for multiple shipments, I don't think that's going to be possible without paying the importation permit fees each time, but the vet costs would be the biggest chunk of the costs I think... depending on the other parts, it might be worth while to have additional eggs going to other parts of the country for additional breeders to work on the lines.

but first we need to find out the exact requirements at each step and associated costs, then we can think about that later, and also depending on the funding available.

the import permit is around 150

customs vet inspection is aprox 140-300-450 depending on speed and mood

import duties on commercial value - not sure - prob 25% 400 eggs at 2 per egg would be $200

 

[SusanCatt]

That is great material, did you post if in a document on the group? Robyn over there is researching this stuff now too and it would help her to not have to do it over. also she is a vet and understands the testing procedures. You two could work together. We are awaiting the business model then we plan on developing committees.

 

[Hangtown Farms]

no but I will

 

[SusanCatt]

the import permit is around 150

customs vet inspection is aprox 140-300-450 depending on speed and mood

import duties on commercial value - not sure - prob 25% 400 eggs at 2 per egg would be $200

That is very reasonable compared to what we were originally thinking.

Finally figured out the quote thingy lol

 

[Hangtown Farms]

ok posted over there