I am new to this forum; however, I am currently working on developing a bird that meets the specifications you are discussing in this thread. I have the first two breeds that I want to cross already and they will begin to lay in January. I will wait until early summer to cross them. I am going to acquire the other two breeds in March so that I can cross them. I will take the offspring of these two crosses and cross them. One breed I haven't seen mentioned that is one of the four breeds I am using is the Naked Neck Turken. This breed was used in developing one of the Label Rouge breeds in Europe. I'm currently trying to find information on the specific genetics of the four birds I am working with.