d'Uccle color genetics

[Sonoran Silkies]

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If you are using splash to make goldenneck, you WANT the washed out splash with few to no splashes. I would tend to think you would not want to mix your golden necks with your blue mille fleurs. However, I am not a d'uccle breeder.

Sonoran, that's what I was wondering, are Goldnecks splash blue MF's, or are golden necks like my daffy the result of using splash to develop gold necks or neither? Daffy has no blue, he is definitely a gold neck, and I plan to breed him to only other gold necks.

lilcrow, Thanks for the compliment. I think Daffy is probably the most beautiful chicken I have. Often, visitors to my place try to buy him, but I won't part with him. (His full name is Daffodil. lol We named him before we knew he was a he.)

Blue mille fleur can be made with splash or with dominant white. If with splash, you want a washed out white--you do not want the blue to show as blue or as blue with splashing; you want it to show as white. The splash will not wash out the gold in the bird; only the black/blue, and for golden neck that is what you want. A golden neck should look like a mille fleur with all black pigment replaced by white: it is a golden and white bird.

The blue gene dilutes whatever eumelanin (black pigment) is present on the bird. One copy dilutes to blue; two copies dilute to splash. Dominant white works differently, but it replaces all black pigment with the lack of pigment (white).

 

[TurtleFeathers]

See my post #18 on page 2.

 

[wegotchickens]

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From me?
When my broody hens get off their feathered duffs and start laying again. Every hen I own is either on a nest or mothering chicks.

 

[lilcrow]

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Ah Sonoran, you're so much more eloquent than I am at explaining this. Now my question about the dominant white, even though it seems to me to be the quicker and more efficient way to get to a proper Golden Neck,(using the dominant white gene that is), doesn't that then put an end to that particular line of birds in breeding them to produce blue mille fleur, mille fleur or golden neck in the future as they will not breed true to the Andalusian gene?

 

[Shannon's Chix]

Can anyone tell me what colors I have here? Thanks!

 

[Celtic Hill]

The one on the left looks like a white, and possibly a self blue on the right, im not totally sure on the one in the middle.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I would say two blues and a white, but not certain on the white--too much glare to distinguish any nuances that may be present.

As for the lighter blue--notice how its hackle is darker than the rest of its body? That says andalusian, not lavender. (Not that it couldn't be both)

 

[Shannon's Chix]

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Sorry, not on top of the genetics thing. Does that mean it may not be a d'uccle?

 

[wegotchickens]

I'm not happy with the feathering on my lavenders: They feather in slow, have thin feathers inclined to a silkying fringe at the edges.
I dearly love the feathering on my MF roo: His feathers are tight, shiny, and well defined.

According to the calculator, if I cross the MF roo with the Lav pullets I get:
50% black
50% split lav / split mottled

If I take the black pullets & cross them back to the Lav roo:
50% lav / split pied-mottled
50% black

Take the lav/split pullets & cross back to the lav roo:
50% lav / pied
50% lav

If I select & cull for feather quality, will this help fix my crummy lav feathering?

 

[Shannon's Chix]

Please help me decide which cockeral to keep (maybe 2) to get the best outcomes as far as offspring. I have:

COCKERALS:
Mille Fleur
Porcelain
Self Blue
Black mottled

PULLETS:
porcelain
mille fleur
self blue
white (i think)

I also have a cock and pullet I have no idea what variety they are...will post pics later.

Any thoughts MUCH appreciated!