D'uccle Thread

[acid_chipmunk]

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GC..I can only imagine how you feel with all that bad weather! We are expecting more cold and some of the white stuff tonight. I am ready for spring!!!! Babies are doing well. I will post more pics soon.

Every time I THINK the word snow, I just wanna croak!

and then of course barfing is followed by

"not again"!! Would love to see pics as they grow.

WGC, what are your babies looking like. AC...

Be honest, I need/wanna know.

Sorry I haven't gotten pics up. They are wiggly little buggers and want nothing to do with the camera, and we went away for a couple days and just got back last night. I have one Mille and one that is black. I am very curious to see what the black one turns out like. I'll see if I can get my hubby to post some pics today since he is home and I am at work.

 

[spook]

AC- those little buggers certainly do move! I usually get blurs!

I added to this thread, perhaps you would like to share your coop and breeding pen ideas. I placed a lengthy description of my disaster! *L* https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=450112 (hope that gets you to the right place) I like to see others set ups so to improve my next large coop where I plan on housing all birds under the same roof.

The D'uccles have 18 eggs in the bator, 9 a week ago, 9 just yesterday. I'm so excited, but concerned that I'll have to go through what I did during the fall.
Hope your all having a wonderful day!!

 

[Doug the Chicken Man]

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I know. I know
We are all facing simular things with what we are doing in our projects.
I was just hoping that it would produce more silver to help diversify the gene pool.

 

[GypsyChic]

I understand, and I have a few little MF pullets I will be placing with him when they are all old enough. In the meantime I hope to hatch more silvers and lemons. Wish you were able to send and receive eggs

that would be awesome.

AC, glad the 2 little fuzzy butts are doing well. Watch the black one as I've found they mature slower than the other colors, AND not all the time, but most have matured into Lemons for me w/exception to the solid blacks.

WGC, how are your babies and their toes looking? I went up today to do my twice weekly coop clean out and was looking over a blue pullet. She is showing lemon/gold leakage around neck like your blue chicks. The others are pure solid blue, she's the only one

 

[wegotchickens]

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the traditional henks disclaimer

I have never successfully used henks to predict anything, merely to explain what I got later....


So there's a chance that the silver mille gene will act as a sex-linked gene between silver and standard mille? That could be handy! But I wonder if you'd get straw/red bleed through on the next generations.... I'm wondering if silver mille over the project girls would be better, or the white d'Uccles. Guess I'd better play with henks calc again, too.

After learning about red bleed-though on black mottleds, I started to wonder if that's what I'm seeing on the black hens that don't have 'lemon' lacing, but just a trace of mahongany red lacing here and there. I'm going to take one to the next show and see if they DQ her....

So far, white over self-blue (with mottled recessive) is producing black babes with a touch of white mottling so far. Have 2 chicks from that cross so far, with more due to hatch over V-day.


GC, I'll get new pics of your babes tonight if I can. Could pretty please tell me the (possible) parents of the sillvers, and of the milles? That might help me decide who I want to cross them with to build on silver and not enhance red....

 

[GypsyChic]

Quote:
the traditional henks disclaimer

I have never successfully used henks to predict anything, merely to explain what I got later....


So there's a chance that the silver mille gene will act as a sex-linked gene between silver and standard mille? That could be handy! But I wonder if you'd get straw/red bleed through on the next generations.... I'm wondering if silver mille over the project girls would be better, or the white d'Uccles. Guess I'd better play with henks calc again, too.

After learning about red bleed-though on black mottleds, I started to wonder if that's what I'm seeing on the black hens that don't have 'lemon' lacing, but just a trace of mahongany red lacing here and there. I'm going to take one to the next show and see if they DQ her....

So far, white over self-blue (with mottled recessive) is producing black babes with a touch of white mottling so far. Have 2 chicks from that cross so far, with more due to hatch over V-day.


GC, I'll get new pics of your babes tonight if I can. Could pretty please tell me the (possible) parents of the sillvers, and of the milles? That might help me decide who I want to cross them with to build on silver and not enhance red....

Yes, I believe a chance of sex-link w/silver only.
I've not been successful predicting from henks either, but, it's usually due to my DILUTED factors and that's what complicates everything for me.
Believe it or not, both lemon and silver carry very "similar" genetics, not EXACT, but similar...or so that's been the case with my exp so far. Both Silver & Lemon roos over both porc, mottled and whites, plus very VERY light millie gals who seems to have the genetics of both colors. So, that's where I'm at right now. I'll get my breeding records out and scan into a PM for you. LOL not saying you will ever be able to decifer it,

but maybe it will be of some help.

AUBREY, jump in here hun and help with discription of genetics. Your much better at "wording" things than I am

 

[wegotchickens]

I'm so easily confused, anyway.

I think I need to get my genetics book out again, and read it cover to cover with what I've learned this past 6 months.
And then read it again while holding your notes!


I was looking at one of my lemon blues last night and wishing they were just a touch older. I'd enter them in the next show just to see how the judges responded. The girl I was cuddling last night doesn't have awesome foot feathers, but decent, and they are just SUCH pretty babies!

My goldneck roos were trying to make me feel bad about selling them. The pullets are spastic little things, but the cockerals were all over me last night. Standing on my feet, cocking their heads and murmuring to me as I was filling the water bowl. Just being adorable....
But I must be strong! Otherwise I can't keep the silvers.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Quote:
the traditional henks disclaimer

I have never successfully used henks to predict anything, merely to explain what I got later....


So there's a chance that the silver mille gene will act as a sex-linked gene between silver and standard mille? That could be handy! But I wonder if you'd get straw/red bleed through on the next generations.... I'm wondering if silver mille over the project girls would be better, or the white d'Uccles. Guess I'd better play with henks calc again, too.

After learning about red bleed-though on black mottleds, I started to wonder if that's what I'm seeing on the black hens that don't have 'lemon' lacing, but just a trace of mahongany red lacing here and there. I'm going to take one to the next show and see if they DQ her....

So far, white over self-blue (with mottled recessive) is producing black babes with a touch of white mottling so far. Have 2 chicks from that cross so far, with more due to hatch over V-day.


GC, I'll get new pics of your babes tonight if I can. Could pretty please tell me the (possible) parents of the sillvers, and of the milles? That might help me decide who I want to cross them with to build on silver and not enhance red....

Yes, I believe a chance of sex-link w/silver only.
I've not been successful predicting from henks either, but, it's usually due to my DILUTED factors and that's what complicates everything for me.
Believe it or not, both lemon and silver carry very "similar" genetics, not EXACT, but similar...or so that's been the case with my exp so far. Both Silver & Lemon roos over both porc, mottled and whites, plus very VERY light millie gals who seems to have the genetics of both colors. So, that's where I'm at right now. I'll get my breeding records out and scan into a PM for you. LOL not saying you will ever be able to decifer it,

but maybe it will be of some help.

AUBREY, jump in here hun and help with discription of genetics. Your much better at "wording" things than I am

Misty, sorry havent been on this one in a while, yall add to many pages to quick to it, LOL

Yall are right, the silver and lemon are very similar, all they are is millie fluers, one having the cream gene, one having a silver gene (instead of the normal gold)
Other than that, they are just millie fluers.

I havent had the pleasure of working with either in my d'anvers just yet, but am half way there on my silvers.
The silver is much harder to finish to me than the cream.
Cream bred to a millie will give you all millies, which will be split to lemon cream.
Back breed those, and you will get 50% lemon millies and 50% millies. Froim there, they are done.

Same cant be said with the silvers, from the programs I have run it seems that yes hens are a much more common out come than roos on that color.
Depending on what you use, it can take years. I have been using my silver quail over the millies and should have some correct ones this year after 1 more cross.
Anything with the silver gene can beused to get them though, silver duckwings would be the best though.

Hecks calculator is spot on on every single cross I have used though, you can easily predict your out come, and for me with over 30 colors it has been 99% accurate so far.
For the diluters, you just have to add them in. Like for silver millies, punch in millies, then go down to the silver gene. It will be showing GOLD, click on it, it will give you the option for the silver, once you have it in, the calculation on your various crosses will show you the accurate out come of them.

Same with the lemons, whic they are actually on there now, listed as lemon porcelain. But you can use any color on there, add the lemon "cream " gene to it, and go on with your calculation.

I ran various crosses of millie x silver millie, silver millie x cream millie, millie x cream...there were a lot of various results, but the easiest was the lemon to millie, Like I said they will just all be lemon splits all the time.

The silver crossed produced yes mainly pullets. So there MAY be some for of sex link there, but I doubt it.
Contine to cross the silver pullets over the millie or lemon males you get and they'll eventuall pop up.
Once you have a male, you're good to go.

Like I said, I have done them just yet, but am working on the silver, and with Misty's help the cream will be started this year.
Once I get some of my own, I can tell yall a little more about them.

Good luck to all working on both!

 

[acid_chipmunk]

Misty, bad news here. Hubby and I were sitting here after I got home from work and the MF baby passed away.

It had been looking sleepy, but was running around with the rest of them when they were awake. I am so sad to tell you that.

 

[speckledhen]

Sorry about the chick, AC.