Dumbest Things People Have Said About Your Chickens/Eggs/Meat - Part 2 : Chicken Boogaloo.

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I hate to sound crass, cause I love animals, but they do that research so us humans can have good medical advances and care. So if a person says "no way" about animal research, but then goes into the doctor the next week to have their ACL fixed in their knee or a cancer treatment, they are kind of a walking contradiction. I'm not attacking anyone's values. Just putting an opinion out there. Myself, I'll be going a different route than chemo if I ever get cancer. No thank you, poison!
 
I hate to sound crass, cause I love animals, but they do that research so us humans can have good medical advances and care.  So if a person says "no way" about animal research, but then goes into the doctor the next week to have their ACL fixed in their knee or a cancer treatment, they are kind of a walking contradiction.  I'm not attacking anyone's values. Just putting an opinion out there. Myself, I'll be going a different route than chemo if I ever get cancer. No thank you, poison!


Yeah I guess so and it makes sense, we do need the advancements, but all I'm saying is they shouldn't kill them if they don't have to. If they did have to for the research, then fine, but if not then they shouldn't have. And I guess it depends what type of research it is cause I don't really think giving an animal cancer or diabetes or a mental disorder or whatever is fair. But I guess we do need to learn about it and that's the only way. But they should figure out better ways then. Idk. I have more of an issue with testing like hair products and stuff on them. And keeping primates in there. But besides that, I guess if it's necessary then whatever. But they shouldn't kill them afterwards like theyre nothing and some facilities treat animals better than others
 
Yeah, I would also hope they don't kill them afterwards unless absolutely necessary. They do have a chimpanzee sanctuary for research animals.


Yeah, I guess we'll never know but they probably don't. And really? Well that's good at least :) but I don't know, I just feel like primates are too smart to be in a little or bare cage in a lab
 
Well, I will throw myself under the bus and share the dumbest thing I have said regarding chickens... the first time I met someone with a backyard flock, we got to talking just when one of their hens was laying an egg. I noticed the egg was white and said "I thought all chicken eggs were brown and the store bought ones are bleached."

Needless to say, they got a good laugh out of it, and I learned a lesson about chickens and their eggs. I seriously thought all eggs were brown!
 
PETA is not an animal welfare group, they are an animal rights group, and believe it or not, there is a difference.  They are guided by the belief that animals are equal to humans, and use this to justify the most bizarrely cruel and repulsive behavior both toward people and pets.  They run one of the largest kill shelters in the country, euthanizing hundreds of otherwise healthy, adoptable pets every year because they believe death is the better option.  Some numbers put their kill rate as high as 85%.  They have been known to steal pets off their owner's porches to bring to these shelters.  I've known several who forced a "vegan" diet on their cats, an animal that is an obligate carnivore and will die without meat.

HSUS is dedicated to the elimination of domestic animals.  If you don't believe me, here are some choice quotes from their president, Wayne Pacelle:

“We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals.”

“If I had my personal view, perhaps that might take hold. In fact, I don’t want to see another dog or cat born.”

And one from former their former president, Michael Fox:

“The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration.”

PETA and the HSUS do not educate.  They fear monger and spread misinformation in order to gain public support and push an absolutely delusional agenda.  My other hobby, reptile keeping, has been a favorite target of theirs as my pets are strange and scary to other people, and its hard to gain public support when you don't have a cute fluffy face to stick in a camera.  We've been repeatedly targeted by ludicrous legislation banning harmless pets.  If you think anyone from either of those organizations would want to pat your back and shake your hand for choosing ethical meat, you are sorely mistaken.  They would spit on you and call you a murderer, just the same as a poor inner city kid in a food desert who doesn't even have the option of a vegan diet, a farmers' market, regular grocery store, or anything other than the over priced, half way to expired stuff stocked in a convenience store fridge in a gas station.

Oh, which brings me to a few other handy things they overlook when pushing that great vegan diet!  The demand for organic produce is actually outstripping supply, and as a result many miles of vital rain forest are being cleared out to create farmland, furthering the decline of the environment.  Many produce harvesters are migrant workers who are exploited by under payment in inhumane conditions.  But that's okay, because a chicken is worth more than a human.  Bees, which are necessary for pollination of 90% of the country's produce that vegans like to eat, are enslaved by those mean, awful humans that steal their honey.  Humans need to stop keeping bees entirely.  Instead they should use agave as a sweetener, even though the harvest of agave nectar is unsustainable, and places further pressures on local pollinator species such as bats. Wait, who will pollinate the crops?  Well, nature will just take care of it!  Duh!  And who cares if you have allergies, or other food sensitivities or medical conditions, live in a place with little to no access to fresh produce, or are just too darn poor to afford a vegan diet, you're a murdering monster who should be punished if you don't do it anyway. 

I know i am late on this, but you did a fantastic job here of summing up the reality of PETA thank you.
 
Well, I will throw myself under the bus and share the dumbest thing I have said regarding chickens... the first time I met someone with a backyard flock, we got to talking just when one of their hens was laying an egg. I noticed the egg was white and said "I thought all chicken eggs were brown and the store bought ones are bleached."

Needless to say, they got a good laugh out of it, and I learned a lesson about chickens and their eggs. I seriously thought all eggs were brown!


LOL omg
 
I think PETA has wonderful ideals of treating animals with humane respect. However, there is a line.
Last year, a local research facility lost a goat (because it escaped at the loading dock). The goat, named William the Goat (Billy the Kid...), had just had a knee replacement surgery to study common stress injuries and different treatments. Basically, the goat roamed the city for a little over 2 weeks, evading police (whom had made wanted posters for the station) and university employees. Eventually they caught him, in perfect health - other than a little lighter from the miles of running - and he was euthanized a few months later to complete the study. PETA had raised a stink, trying to convince people to "save" the goat and begging the university to let them find sanctuary for William. My dad, who works animal care at the university, went on to tell me that, not only was that goat humanely taken care of in every way, but that if he ever needed knee surgery, he was going to ask the vet at work (whom had done the surgery for the goats). He figured if the goat could evade police and be seen running throughout 3 different cities, the knee surgery went fine.
Today I was asked what I do with the eggs from my chickens. After making sure of what they meant, I told them "Some go in the incubator, some in the fridge, some sold, and some get scrambled up for the chickens." Their jaw dropped. "So, your chickens lay eggs you can EAT?" Yup. Because they are well cared for and named, unlike some commercial chickens, they must not be able to lay edible eggs, like commercial chickens. Sometimes I feel bad telling people the truth, because they either have a really embarrassing moment or they just go on being ignorant.

You just made my day :gig
Wait, you EAT your chicken eggs?!?! :lau That is AWESOME!!! :lol:
sorry, I'm weird :p
 

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