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[TheKeeper]

Speaking of perpetuating stereotypes...

 

[Crickett]

This brings me to a different thing in movies. I'm now going to mention guns, so you're only allowed to answer my question and not get all hot and bothered about gun rights.

Do the US armed forces really teach you to fire at full auto? And why do they always shoot from the hip in movies?

Usually you're taught semi-auto. There is a session where they teach you fully auto in three second bursts. As for shooting from the hip, it's supposed to be faster.

 

[NinjaRooster]

This brings me to a different thing in movies. I'm now going to mention guns, so you're only allowed to answer my question and not get all hot and bothered about gun rights.

Do the US armed forces really teach you to fire at full auto? And why do they always shoot from the hip in movies?

Usually you're taught semi-auto. There is a session where they teach you fully auto in three second bursts. As for shooting from the hip, it's supposed to be faster.

This may or may not be totally relevant, but Mythbusters tested shooting from the hip, (and a few other similar stances) and it was found to be horribly innacurate.

 

[GimmeCake]

Usually you're taught semi-auto. There is a session where they teach you fully auto in three second bursts. As for shooting from the hip, it's supposed to be faster.

The U.S. army uses the M163A, a variant of the M16 that uses semi-auto and 3 round bursts instead of the original M16 design which uses semi-auto and full-auto.

The reason behind this is because in Vietnam the soldiers were doing something called "Spray 'n prey" where they essentially shoot wherever they think an enemy is in attempt to kill them rather then aiming them down on the sights.

The enemy at the time were using type 2 AK47 rifles which use cheaper, slower, larger-caliber rounds then the M16 which were designed to do just this. The rounds of the M16 were designed to be smaller, faster, and more accurate. In addition, they were made with the more expensive brass-cased ammunition, which unlike the AK47's steel-cased ammunition, is more expensive.

So the enemies had the good 'ol Kalashnikov rifle while the 'Muricans had the expensive (and expensive to shoot) M16. They copied their enemies and caused the army to have to spend a lot on ammunition. This caused them to force the soldiers to use the more ammo-efficient 3 round bursts.

On that matter, 3 seconds is around the time it takes to deplete a 30 round bannana magazine.

 

[GimmeCake]

This may or may not be totally relevant, but Mythbusters tested shooting from the hip, (and a few other similar stances) and it was found to be horribly innacurate.

Can confirm.

 

[vehve]

The U.S. army uses the M163A, a variant of the M16 that uses semi-auto and 3 round bursts instead of the original M16 design which uses semi-auto and full-auto.

The reason behind this is because in Vietnam the soldiers were doing something called "Spray 'n prey" where they essentially shoot wherever they think an enemy is in attempt to kill them rather then aiming them down on the sights.

The enemy at the time were using type 2 AK47 rifles which use cheaper, slower, larger-caliber rounds then the M16 which were designed to do just this. The rounds of the M16 were designed to be smaller, faster, and more accurate. In addition, they were made with the more expensive brass-cased ammunition, which unlike the AK47's steel-cased ammunition, is more expensive.

So the enemies had the good 'ol Kalashnikov rifle while the 'Muricans had the expensive (and expensive to shoot) M16. They copied their enemies and caused the army to have to spend a lot on ammunition. This caused them to force the soldiers to use the more ammo-efficient 3 round bursts.

On that matter, 3 seconds is around the time it takes to deplete a 30 round bannana magazine.

We used the Sako RK-62, basically a full steel upgraded AK-47, brass cased 7,62mmx39 FMJ. At 50 meters, aiming and on full auto, first shot is bulls-eye, second a 5 and the third cant be seen on the target. With this experience I've always wondered about the movie shooting, I would only use that in confined spaces when clearing a building, and even then I'd prefer a shotgun, preferrably with a wolf load.

We now return to our scheduled programming. The neighbors kid's class came for a visit to look at our chickens, and the teacher was surprised to learn that chickens eat meat.

 

[winteree]

Speaking of perpetuating stereotypes...

 

[oldrooster]

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Every few years you hear of a congressman or senator wanting to have someone from the STATE of New Mexico thrown out of Washington because they aren't US citizens because they are from " (New) Mexico", yes our representatives in Washington don't know the difference between a state and a foreign country. I am somewhat ashamed to admit to reversing where some states actually are with their neighbors (like VT and RI) but at least I know they are sates and the general region of where they are.

 

[oldrooster]

I heard an older lady (probably 75+ judging by her voice and an American accent to boot) ask a talk show host who had done tours on cruise lines in the Caribbean ask if she needed a passport to go to Porto Rico. The host asked where she was departing from, stops on the cruise and where she port she would return to and asked if she was an American citizen she answered Miami for departure/return American Samoa the US Virgin Islands and yeas she was a US citizen and the host said no. SHe asked if he was sure, and he had to tell her it was a US holding from more than likely before her birth, she acted like she just learned man set foot on the moon.

 

[oldrooster]

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This brings me to a different thing in movies. I'm now going to mention guns, so you're only allowed to answer my question and not get all hot and bothered about gun rights.

Do the US armed forces really teach you to fire at full auto? And why do they always shoot from the hip in movies?
Usually you're taught semi-auto. There is a session where they teach you fully auto in three second bursts. As for shooting from the hip, it's supposed to be faster.
This may or may not be totally relevant, but Mythbusters tested shooting from the hip, (and a few other similar stances) and it was found to be horribly innacurate.
Ninja this might be true, but there are always exceptions to the rule, had a great-uncle that hunted so often he could shoot from the hip and drop a deer instantly with the first shot (most deer hunters have a hard time killing a deer with 2-3 shots that they take aim to shoot). It depends on the skill of the shooter, and the practice thereof.