Dumor vs Purina Laying Feed

[chicken-daddy]

I have had a problem with bad feed before and they exchanged it with no problem. I bought pig feed and it was moldy. This was on two different trips to tractor supply and the feed was the same. Didn't look bad. I always check before I feed. Just was different. The purina crumbles are a little larger but looks and sells good enough, I might try it my self but my wife will get pretty mad if I start laying eggs, lol
all joking aside hopefully the change in feed keeps them happy.

 

[chicken-daddy]

Oh and Welcome To BYC from the High Desert

deb

Thank You Deb

 

[chicken-daddy]

Feed companies will change the recipe according to how expensive the ingredients become. In other words they are not required to keep the same recipe. You can send your feed off (ask your local agricultural agent) to have the ingredients verified. I use Purina as I've always liked the uniformity of the feed.

Thank you, that makes me feel better about my choice.

 

[perchie.girl]

What do you mean to ferment it? We give them scratch grains and they free range daily.

I guess I should have gone further to define fermented Feeds.
and Yes I have been on those threads....

Fermented feed:
Done a bucket at a time You fill the bucket up with water till the feed is coveredjust barely.... put a lid on loosly so the air can move in and out. You dont want Anerobic bacteria to form.... Just as you would fermenting koumbacha or Sourcrout. me I would put cheese cloth over between the lid and the top of the bucket.

About twenty four hours later you will see bubbles and smell a yeasty smell. along with other strong odors. You can feed it at any time but at the bubbly stage is good. Once getting it started you can feed then replace the volume with new Feed and add more water.

Yep its kept at room temperature.

Seal the lid off and you risk Botulisim... so dont. LOL. Its to labor intenisve for me... and logistically I cannot keep it at a good temperature.
deb

 

[chicken-daddy]

I guess I should have gone further to define fermented Feeds.
and Yes I have been on those threads....

Fermented feed:
Done a bucket at a time You fill the bucket up with water till the feed is coveredjust barely.... put a lid on loosly so the air can move in and out. You dont want Anerobic bacteria to form.... Just as you would fermenting koumbacha or Sourcrout. me I would put cheese cloth over between the lid and the top of the bucket.

About twenty four hours later you will see bubbles and smell a yeasty smell. along with other strong odors. You can feed it at any time but at the bubbly stage is good. Once getting it started you can feed then replace the volume with new Feed and add more water.

Yep its kept at room temperature.

Seal the lid off and you risk Botulisim... so dont. LOL. Its to labor intenisve for me... and logistically I cannot keep it at a good temperature.
deb

Wow Deb, That's a lot. I run and operate my own business and the chickens are for fun. You really know your stuff but I couldn't even imagine doing all of that. I really appreciate the info. At least now I know what it means. Thank You

 

[lazy gardener]

There is a link to an excellent article in my signature (written by Tikki Jane). It explains the how and why of FF. I've been fermenting for 4+ years for a flock that is sometimes over 40 birds strong. While Deb does not find FF practical in her situation, I've found that it's really not a bother at all. Simply entails putting feed and water in a bucket, giving it a stir and serving it up 24 - 48 hours later. No concern what so ever to me regarding botulism, (which as she says does grow in an anaerobic environment) or mold. Never had issue with mold, and it's impossible for FF to grow botulism if done right.

As I understand it, Purina makes Dumour. I have given up buying from a local big box feed store b/c their feed was almost always old, or they didn't have the formulation I wanted. Feed 6 weekss beyond mill date is well on it's way to being worthless. I'll walk out of a store empty handed before I'll spend money on old feed.

I have also had the experience of buying feed that was still fresh, but for what ever reason, my birds simply would not eat it no matter how it was served. They were literally starving to death. I called the manager, and they had me bring the bag back. They replaced it, no questions asked.

 

[perchie.girl]

Thank You Deb

You are welcome.... There is a wealth of information here on BYC... and with very large communities there is a wealth of Misinfomation. Not intentional for sure but Here its all concentrated.

Thats why I do Due Dilligence reading up on information. I been here a while... But I will never profess to be an expert... because the more I learn the more I find out that I really dont know.
deb

 

[perchie.girl]

There is a link to an excellent article in my signature (written by Tikki Jane). It explains the how and why of FF. I've been fermenting for 4+ years for a flock that is sometimes over 40 birds strong.

As I understand it, Purina makes Dumour. I have given up buying from a local big box feed store b/c their feed was almost always old, or they didn't have the formulation I wanted. Feed 6 weekss beyond mill date is well on it's way to being worthless. I'll walk out of a store empty handed before I'll spend money on old feed.

I have also had the experience of buying feed that was still fresh, but for what ever reason, my birds simply would not eat it no matter how it was served. They were literally starving to death. I called the manager, and they had me bring the bag back. They replaced it, no questions asked.

 

[hlhutchinson]

I might try it my self but my wife will get pretty mad if I start laying eggs

 

[Gypsi]

My Layena just changed color, from a sort of milky tan to a brighter yellow, I buy at the local feed store. Hens are taking it ok. I wasn't aware of Dumor brand, which does say purina on it, until my helper gave me a bag of hay for my bunny in a dumor bag and I actually read the bag. Is it better than Layena? Cheaper? I've been feeding Layena since 2010 but have had intermittent calcium problems with my hens, it's not enough by itself especially coming out of molt