Dun/chocolate and dun sumatras

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I would say bantam if you have or can get them. Like I said, Boggy Bottom Bantams raises them in Blues and Blacks and I like the looks of bantam longtails better than large fowl ones.
 
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They are pretty rare so if you do them right and wait until you have them looking like Sumatras before you start to sell them, then if the right person wants them, you should be able to get a decent price. You should probably test the waters in an auction system first to get an idea of a fair price.
 
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you could use chocolate (dun) polish
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and get crested sumatras
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What do you mean by "chocolate (dun)"?

The variety is named chocolate, and is created with one copy of the dun gene. Two copies would create khaki. two copies of choc will also create chocolate.
 
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Just wait til next summer, I can save you about 6 years or better of work, using an old english over sumatra will take many, MANY years to correct.
Breeders that have used them in phoenix work, have spent about 8-10 years of back breeding to get them close to phoenix again, that long tail can be a pain to work with .

Reason I say wait, Is I just got a VERY nice bantam dun hen and will be breeding her to my Blacks this spring, and the blues for that "Platinum" color. Which yes, to the best of my understanding is somewhat of a splash x khaki mix of genes.

I will get some pics of her as soon as possible, she's a new arrival and just got here. (havent told you about her yet Clint,
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As for what you can get out of them, depending on their quality, whatever you want, virtually no one has them. I love making new colors that dont exsist in certain breeds, mainly long tails and d'anvers. So pretty much, when you are it with them, there's no set price other than what you feel good about letting them go for..

I mean I just paid $100 each for some good bantam phoenix in new colors, and was happy to do it for what they were.
 
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Just wait til next summer, I can save you about 6 years or better of work, using an old english over sumatra will take many, MANY years to correct.
Breeders that have used them in phoenix work, have spent about 8-10 years of back breeding to get them close to phoenix again, that long tail can be a pain to work with .

Reason I say wait, Is I just got a VERY nice bantam dun hen and will be breeding her to my Blacks this spring, and the blues for that "Platinum" color. Which yes, to the best of my understanding is somewhat of a splash x khaki mix of genes.

I will get some pics of her as soon as possible, she's a new arrival and just got here. (havent told you about her yet Clint,
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As for what you can get out of them, depending on their quality, whatever you want, virtually no one has them. I love making new colors that dont exsist in certain breeds, mainly long tails and d'anvers. So pretty much, when you are it with them, there's no set price other than what you feel good about letting them go for..

I mean I just paid $100 each for some good bantam phoenix in new colors, and was happy to do it for what they were.

mmhmm I noticed that I havent heard about this little dun girl Aubrey, lol I'm looking forward to seeing her too and I will definitely have to get some of them from you too when you have some extras. I was planning on getting some from SunSetsWest a year or so ago but I think she said she sold them for something got them when I contacted her about them again and I was pretty bummed becuase she was the only one I knew of that had them so be sure to let me know when you have an extra one. They are beautiful birds, especially the Khaki roo she had.

But poultrycrazy, it would definitely be worth your wait to wait until Aubrey has some exstra eggs, chicks, or started birds to sell you.
 
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I'm working on them, and have a breeder bird or two available, but they are not pure silkie as of right now. Mostly F1 crosses between silkies and polish.

Nice!
 

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