Easter Egger's and Ameraucana's = same thing

[nicalandia]

As separate breeds, sure.
Not sure why Araucana is involved in this since it's a bit different.

No, way back then they were one and The same, I am talking about 1920s here, someone was scratching their head to The fact hatcheries we're selling Araucanas, Ameraucanas Easter Eggers before they were actual breeds

 

[ChocolateMouse]

So, ameraucana owners are proud they can control the color of the feathers thru selective breeding. I guess I dont see how that makes it different.

Is your entire argument here...

That ameracucanas and easter eggers aren't any different....

Because one is controlled and one isn't? XD

I mean like it kind of sounds like your entire summation here is that controlling aspects of the genetics of your birds is irrelevant. In which case why would we have any breeds of birds at all then? You sumatra is just an Ayam Cemani. Your Deathlayer is just a leghorn. Your Delaware is just a stupid looking Plymouth rock? All those backyard chicken mixes? All purebred birds. All of them.

Like... What?

 

[TheOddOneOut]

No breed is. That is how breeds are developed. From crossing. The Ameraucana breed was a result of crosses. Meaning its not pure right?

Ok. I just can’t.
I’m retracting myself from this.
You have changed your argument from ‘they are the same thing’ to ‘no breed is pure’.
Goodbye.

 

[The Happster]

Ok. *inhales*
Ameraucanas were bred from Araucanas, to preserve the blue egg gene, while eliminating the lethal tufted gene.
They come in set colour variations.
Can't list them all of the top of my head, but I remember some.
Wheaten, silver, white, black, buff, and red wheaten.
They must be muffed and bearded, clean legged, have small or non existent wattles, and a pea comb. They lay various shades of blue.

Easter Eggers ('Americanas'- hear the contempt in my voice, hatcheries) are complete mixes. They often lay coloured eggs. They can have any features.

 

[whiteboy]

Ok. I just can’t.
I’m retracting myself from this.
You have changed your argument from ‘they are the same thing’ to ‘no breed is pure’.
Goodbye.

Well at least you haven't resorted to name calling. Let's call it a draw.

 

[TheOddOneOut]

Ok. *inhales*
Ameraucanas were bred from Araucanas, to preserve the blue egg gene, while eliminating the lethal tufted gene.
They come in set colour variations.
Can't list them all of the top of my head, but I remember some.
Wheaten, silver, white, black, buff, and red wheaten.
They must be muffed and bearded, clean legged, have small or non existent wattles, and a pea comb. They lay various shades of blue.

Easter Eggers ('Americanas'- hear the contempt in my voice, hatcheries) are complete mixes. They often lay coloured eggs. They can have any features.

Agreed.
However, if you cross a Brahma to a Speckled Sussex, are you going to call it an Easter Egger?

 

[whiteboy]

Is your entire argument here...

That ameracucanas and easter eggers aren't any different....

Because one is controlled and one isn't? XD

I mean like it kind of sounds like your entire summation here is that controlling aspects of the genetics of your birds is irrelevant. In which case why would we have any breeds of birds at all then? You sumatra is just an Ayam Cemani. Your Deathlayer is just a leghorn. Your Delaware is just a stupid looking Plymouth rock? All those backyard chicken mixes? All purebred birds. All of them.

Like... What?

One may have leakage, one may not. Is that a differen't breed?

 

[whiteboy]

Agreed.
However, if you cross a Brahma to a Speckled Sussex, are you going to call it an Easter Egger?

Wait, are you on my side now?? lol

 

[ChocolateMouse]

One may have leakage, one may not. Is that a differen't breed?

Lots of breeds have leakage. I'm asking you. Not you asking me. Is your whole summation that controlled genetics and an APA standard don't make a breed purebred?

Because I'm like 99% sure that's the literal definition of a breed....

 

[The Happster]

If you cross a SLW (female) to a RIR (male) - are the offspring still pure Rhode Island Reds?