Eastern Tennessee Thread

[stanglover2001]

I think that the fermented feeds is going to be trying it out keeping a record of the amounts of feed you feed before and noting ant changes after changing over--at least that's what I'm planning on trying when we can reclaim space in the barn,(recycling lumber for the large coop) it just the thing for pasty butt?! My golden retriever had a time with dry dog food I switch him to soaked feed (not FF) and it has made a huge difference in his hurling the food back up--because of that and reading about it, I would really be willing to try FF--so until spring I'm reading, and need to record amounts of feed used. Nothing tried, nothing learned--and because of this thread and BYC I've learned a tremendous amount in a short time. Funny how many things my grandpa did for his birds and stood the test of time. For the ones keeping more than 1 flock, I'd love to see someone try this on 1 flock while keeping another on the same food without it being Fermented. I won't be able to do this until we acquire some broilers.

We're not here to judge

please let us know how it goes. Try to watch for any kind of changes to behavior (sicknesses etc.).

 

[amenfarm]

will do stanglover! and for sun and grass--I believe you can't even keep a flock with out daily big doses of both and never would suggest otherwise, hence me standing over my flock 1 hour everyday until my husband can get the run assembled.

 

[tnchickenut]

will do stanglover! and for sun and grass--I believe you can't even keep a flock with out daily big doses of both and never would suggest otherwise, hence me standing over my flock 1 hour everyday until my husband can get the run assembled.

I didn't mean any tone... just don't understand the concept... I also haven't read up on the topic, so ignore me. I have been fighting on another site this morning so I'm kinda in a mood anyways. LOL

I also should add I'm not a big fan of broilers either, so I'm already cynical. IGNORE ME!!! CARRY ON!!!

 

[stanglover2001]

MMM... I love me some broilers!
Amenfarm - I do suggest trying both Cornish Broilers and Freedom Rangers (I bought mine in winter and not so impressed, think they'd do really well in spring), and take half of each breed and feed differently to see if any changes are impressive enough to waste time on doing the Fermentation. I doubt I'd ever do it myself (oh and make sure to watch COST). I would like to know the differences in final weights (though I have so much chicken in my deep freezer I could probably feed everyone half a chicken at the party and still not need any for a while!) lol


ETA: I was going to do a comparison on using a scratch feed vs the purina flock raiser, and unfortunately that is when Mike at LC feeds was having troubles keeping it in and so ended up giving up on that.

 

[amenfarm]

MMM... I love me some broilers!
Amenfarm - I do suggest trying both Cornish Broilers and Freedom Rangers (I bought mine in winter and not so impressed, think they'd do really well in spring), and take half of each breed and feed differently to see if any changes are impressive enough to waste time on doing the Fermentation. I doubt I'd ever do it myself (oh and make sure to watch COST). I would like to know the differences in final weights (though I have so much chicken in my deep freezer I could probably feed everyone half a chicken at the party and still not need any for a while!) lol


ETA: I was going to do a comparison on using a scratch feed vs the purina flock raiser, and unfortunately that is when Mike at LC feeds was having troubles keeping it in and so ended up giving up on that.

I would love to try both--can they ever be souce locally or at least shipped from the same hatcheries? and does TSC carry either one as day olds? This is a completely new area for me, broilers and day olds--a subject I have only read about. Eyeballs firmly on the cost, more $ failed-the same or less will depend on the condition of the flock. From the reading I'm currently doing, the flock keepers are finding that the birds are eating less, or there is far less waste anyway.

 

[stanglover2001]

I would love to try both--can they ever be souce locally or at least shipped from the same hatcheries? and does TSC carry either one as day olds? This is a completely new area for me, broilers and day olds--a subject I have only read about. Eyeballs firmly on the cost, more $ failed-the same or less will depend on the condition of the flock. From the reading I'm currently doing, the flock keepers are finding that the birds are eating less, or there is far less waste anyway.

TSC carries day old (technically 3-4 days old) cornish broilers, I've bought them before because they were a week old (HAHA I didn't have to feed them for those few days!)... but Freedom Rangers should be bought from the freedom ranger site, I bought mine from Ideal and was not impressed with the heartiness (I can't say much about the feed to weight ratio since I raised them in the fall and we had snow that year).

 

[amenfarm]

I'm thinking the first time to see how effective FF is, I should use the same type of chicks, the same age, feed one FF, feed the other the dry form of the same feed. Then decide which chicks we would rather use as broilers-I'm kinda thinking delwares? at least DH could process the roos, and renew the laying flock as needed?? Whatca think stanglover??

 

[stanglover2001]

I'm thinking the first time to see how effective FF is, I should use the same type of chicks, the same age, feed one FF, feed the other the dry form of the same feed. Then decide which chicks we would rather use as broilers-I'm kinda thinking delwares? at least DH could process the roos, and renew the laying flock as needed?? Whatca think stanglover??

Sounds good! Maybe try new hampshires on the deleware? I've had a new hampshire rooster, he grew the fastest! I've never had deleware besides the one I bought from bairo... also, when you say feed one FF you mean one group right? Because only having 1 in a control group can skew the results... you have to have a control group and a test group.

 

[itsthelaw37801]

I almost missed your post. I don't mind if that's what you want to do, I'll let you choose which 2, they need to be handled if you want more friendly... they'll run up to me when I have feed, but then they'll realize it's me and run the other direction... goofy things... I tried to get them friendly from the time they got to my house but they refused to get near me... they're a very stand-offish breed so if you prefer not to get them I'll understand.

Isn't that odd. I have four silvers that will let us carry them around like footballs. But my goldens won't even eat out of my hand. Do you think it is the breed? I thought I just hadn't played with them enough. I don't want to choose the two. Just give me the two you don't like.

 

[itsthelaw37801]

Oh, I forgot the important part. PM what I owe you.