EDUCATIONAL INCUBATION & HATCHING CHAT THREAD, w/ Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs

Maybe it's my imagination, or perhaps I'm just noticing it more due to your involvement with the Pend.....(however you spell that :idunno) breed, but it seems to me I'm seeing noticeably more BYC members raising them than even a year ago.
There are 4 varieties. There are a couple hatcheries that sell partridge and wheaten, maybe one with crele. There is only one hatchery that sells blacks. But his don't adhere very closely with the standard.
I'm pretty sure I have the largest breeding flock of blacks in North America. I'd happily stand to be corrected if anyone knows of someone devoted to the breed/variety with more birds. I'd love to know about them and would be happy to trade eggs.
The spelling is tricky for English speakers.
The language isn't even Spanish, it is Catalan.
There are 42 regions known as comarques (roughly equivalent to counties in the US and UK) of the autonomous state of Catalonia. It helps a little to break down the name.
The Penedesenca is from the region known as Penedes. So the breed just has the 'enca ending on the region name to identify the indigenous breed.
The Empordanesa, a very similar breed with very dark eggs is from the region Emporda. They have the 'nesa ending on the region name.
Emporda abuts with France on the Mediterranean. Penedes is farther Southwest, also on the Mediterranean and west of Barcelona.
Both breeds share several characteristics. The carnation comb, heat hardiness and the only breeds in the world with a white earlobe that lays a brown egg.
 
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View attachment 1455543 Shalom to all
We visited this today, wonderful place the
Postojna Cave in Slovene
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postojna_Cave
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I bet that was nice and a great respite from summer heat.
I've never been to Slovenia but my daughter has.
If you ever make it here, Missouri is known as the 'Cave State'. With 6400 caverns and caves scattered across the state, mostly in the Ozark Mountains.
The same area is also blessed with many huge springs. Some among the largest in the western hemisphere. The largest is Big Spring and was thought to be the largest in the hemisphere till a larger one was discovered in Brazil.
https://dnr.mo.gov/geology/docs/gcwinter8.pdf
https://dnr.mo.gov/geology/wrc/springs.htm?/env/wrc/springs.htm
Some of the caves are gated for part of the year to protect endangered hibernating and breeding bats.
The DNR came to my brother's property to examine his land use. Apparently there is a cavern under his farm that has endangered white and blind salamanders and crayfish.
They wanted to make sure he wasn't using pesticides/herbicides/fertilizers that would affect them.
 
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I bet that was nice and a great respite from summer heat.
I've never been to Slovenia but my daughter has.
If you ever make it here, Missouri is known as the 'Cave State'. With 6400 caverns and caves scattered across the state, mostly in the Ozark Mountains.
The same area is also blessed with many huge springs. Some among the largest in the western hemisphere. The largest is Big Spring and was thought to be the largest in the hemisphere till a larger one was discovered in Brazil.
https://dnr.mo.gov/geology/docs/gcwinter8.pdf
https://dnr.mo.gov/geology/wrc/springs.htm?/env/wrc/springs.htm
Some of the caves are gated for part of the year to protect endangered hibernating and breeding bats.
The DNR came to my brother's property to examine his land use. Apparently there is a cavern under his farm that has endangered white and blind salamanders and crayfish.
They wanted to make sure he wasn't using pesticides/herbicides/fertilizers that would affect them.
In the Postojna system lives also an endemic blind
salamander called The olm or proteus (Proteus anguinus)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olm
and it is the apex predator of this aquatic ecosystem.
I really want to re visit the USA, it was a 24 long years sinc I have visited your grate country!
And I do recommend Slovene and Croatia beautiful places!
 
In the Postojna system lives also an endemic blind
salamander called The olm or proteus (Proteus anguinus)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olm
and it is the apex predator of this aquatic ecosystem.
I really want to re visit the USA, it was a 24 long years sinc I have visited your grate country!
And I do recommend Slovene and Croatia beautiful places!
I love that stuff. I used to raise salamanders and did a lot of caving. We have a cave on the Arkansas, Missouri border where they found the skeleton of a Sabretooth Tiger.
One of my daughter's favorite places she has visited is Croatia. She just spent a couple weeks in Iceland last month.
I hosted a foreign exchange student from Croatia. I'd love to visit.
 
We never had too many luxuries growing up. We made do with the bare essentials I tell you.
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There are 4 varieties. There are a couple hatcheries that sell partridge and wheaten, maybe one with crele. There is only one hatchery that sells blacks. But his don't adhere very closely with the standard.
I'm pretty sure I have the largest breeding flock of blacks in North America. I'd happily stand to be corrected if anyone knows of someone devoted to the breed/variety with more birds. I'd love to know about them and would be happy to trade eggs.
The spelling is tricky for English speakers.
The language isn't even Spanish, it is Catalan.
There are 42 regions known as comarques (roughly equivalent to counties in the US and UK) of the autonomous state of Catalonia. It helps a little to break down the name.
The Penedesenca is from the region known as Penedes. So the breed just has the 'enca ending on the region name to identify the indigenous breed.
The Empordanesa, a very similar breed with very dark eggs is from the region Emporda. They have the 'nesa ending on the region name.
Emporda abuts with France on the Mediterranean. Penedes is farther Southwest, also on the Mediterranean and west of Barcelona.
Both breeds share several characteristics. The carnation comb, heat hardiness and the only breeds in the world with a white earlobe that lays a brown egg.
It surprises me that they're so heat tolerant, being black birds. I have 4 black ones; 2 mixed hens & 2 BCM chicks...don't know genders yet, but I'm thinking at least one is a pullet. These blacks seem to be the 1st ones mouth breathing & holding the wings out. Fortunately, all my birds, regardless of which pen they're in, have access to sufficient shade, & I'm using ice packs & cubes during the daytime heat, so nobody's really suffering yet.
 
I completely forgot how long my eggs had been in the incubator. :oops: I checked today, and it's day 19--21 (depending on when I set them, I forget) and I still had humidity at 29%. Oops. When I candled them they were almost all drawing down and one was internally pipped and cheeping.
 
I completely forgot how long my eggs had been in the incubator. :oops: I checked today, and it's day 19--21 (depending on when I set them, I forget) and I still had humidity at 29%. Oops. When I candled them they were almost all drawing down and one was internally pipped and cheeping.
I use sticky post-it notes nowadays right on the ovens.
 

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