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Ethics and DNA certificate needed for showing.

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Moochie, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. Moochie

    Moochie Songster

    Nov 8, 2010
    North Edwards
    What is it and where can I get one? It's too late for this year's fair but I would maybe try next year if I have any showable chickens.
    http://www.avfair.com/avfair/Livestock.htm When it says junior, does it mean teens like me? I've googled the ethics and DNA, but I can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Help please?

  2. Moochie

    Moochie Songster

    Nov 8, 2010
    North Edwards
    I'm guessing since it's a certificate I'm going to have to take a class?
  3. silkiechicken

    silkiechicken Staff PhD Premium Member

    Just looks like your fair requires all Jr exibitors to take an ethics class. You'll probably want to contact them on the course you'll need to take. Not sure what the DNA part is about.
  4. sjarvis00

    sjarvis00 Songster

    May 4, 2009
    Shawnee, OKlahoma
    Quote:Juniors are 18 and under. as for DNA cert. I have never heard of it for Poultry, not uncommon for beef cattle from I understand though.
  5. wyoDreamer

    wyoDreamer Crowing

    Nov 10, 2010
    I agree with your assessment, it looks like you need to take a class.

    I searched the fairgrounds site a little and found some contact information.
    Contact the Entry Office and we will help you navigate!
    [email protected] or 661-948-6060 ext: 226

    I would contact them and ask about the ethics class and if there is any way you can get that requirement met by tomorrow.
    Also ask: When was the requirement instituded, where the class is available from, who sponcers the class, how you would sign up for the class, ...
    They should also be able to tell you about the DNA requirement.
  6. saladin

    saladin Songster

    Mar 30, 2009
    the South
    DNA Certificate? That is ludicrous. Must be a misprint. NPIP is required back east and AI in some states, but DNA? What do they want to know; if it's a chicken?
  7. Stumpfarmer

    Stumpfarmer Songster

    Apr 9, 2011
    I suspect that whoever wrote up those rules has experience with cattle and doesn't understand the ramifications of that requirement with other animals- although I'm bemused at the emphasis on DNA when the larger problem with Junior Livestock sales has always been lying about the age of the animal- which is a problem across species, and secondarily treatment with hormones and antibiotics, although I'm informed that it's harder to get those than it was back in the bad old days. DNA is more of a solution for problems in breeding animal competitions, where animals shown as purebreds have been, in fact, F2 and F3 crosses with larger breeds.

    I think the ethics instruction might be a good idea to counteract the experiential lessons of youth livestock competition: cheaters prosper, and money trumps hard work and virtue.

  8. silkiechicken

    silkiechicken Staff PhD Premium Member

    To think of it... I want to say some fairs have "livestock" include large animals like goats, cattle, pigs, while "poultry" to include chickens, pigeons, and waterfowl... perhaps that page really is geared more toward the big animals which DNA testing is for.
  9. phasianidae

    phasianidae Songster

    Nov 9, 2010
    Does'nt it say you only need to take the class if you wish to sell at the auction?

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