Euskal Oiloa ( Basque Thread)

[mzstre]

Has anyone noticed a high percentage of side sprigs or carnation combs in your hatches? Three of my 5 cockerels has a comb fault. From what I understand, these are serious faults and are very difficult to breed out. Of course, I was originally planning on keeping 2 of the 3 that have the fault! Figures. :/

You can sort of see it behind the blade on this guy.

Same thing on this one. I love his coloring, although his beak and legs are white.

 

[mzstre]

Accidentally submitted before I intended...

I think I've read that some of the EOs may have in the past been crossed with Penedesencas. Does anyone have more information? If this is true, perhaps these faults have been carried forward from the crosses. Thoughts?

 

[naturespace]

Accidentally submitted before I intended...
I think I've read that some of the EOs may have in the past been crossed with Penedesencas. Does anyone have more information? If this is true, perhaps these faults have been carried forward from the crosses. Thoughts?

Yes, many of us have seen the side sprig and I also heard they were crossed with Penedesencas. I had one male with it and my one pullet seems to have one too, but hers looks more like a really wide part.

I'm not sure about how hard it is to breed out.

 

[3riverschick]

Yes, many of us have seen the side sprig and I also heard they were crossed with Penedesencas. I had one male with it and my one pullet seems to have one too, but hers looks more like a really wide part.
I'm not sure about how hard it is to breed out.

Marans were also crossed with Pennes. On the Marans Thread, there are dozens of pages on the subject as they work to breed out the comb issues. KathyinMo is an excellent person to ask. She is seeing good sucess.
Best,
Karen

 

[Meg2000000]

Yes, many of us have seen the side sprig and I also heard they were crossed with Penedesencas. I had one male with it and my one pullet seems to have one too, but hers looks more like a really wide part.
I'm not sure about how hard it is to breed out.

What's a side sprig? Sorry for the dumb newbie question!

 

[Maggiesdad]

What's a side sprig? Sorry for the dumb newbie question!

side sprig

page editor still won't let me put in photos...

The little bump on the top line of the comb is a side sprig starting.

 

[Maggiesdad]

Time for some pics, CR!

 

[ChestnutRidge]

If you'd like to see how standardized a Spanish flock actually is, check out http://www.euskalroots.eu/galeria/gallery.html and click on "fotos" for a great slideshow. EOs are shown in Spanish poultry shows and have a Spanish standard.

I don't know if recessive white can be used to lighten anything. It was my understanding that is is sort of an on/off-type thing - either you have two copies of the recessive gene and you are white or you have one copy and are a normal-colored carrier.

A side sprig is a point, or even just a bump, in the comb that is out of line and pops out of the side of the comb. Hmm... here's a picture.

 

[ChestnutRidge]

Time for some pics, CR!

You saw that I was here, huh?

Okay, let me see...

 

[ChestnutRidge]

I'll have to go out and get some better pictures of the chicks from your flock later today. I can't find anything good, but here's a couple.



I have 10 chicks from you, 9 of which are EOs. Can you see which one does not belong?

The Australorp cockerel is gorgeous, though - shiny black-green like a feathered beetle. There are five cockerels - one Australorp, three recessive whites, and the fellow in the foreground. There are 5 pullets - 2 nice, golden, Marraduna colored (left front and left rear above); a "mille fleur" pullet;a light, milky-colored pullet; and one of Rosie's (the chicks under my broody are smaller for some reason so a little behind in growth) which looks to be a more brown or deer-colored pullet.

Let me say, MD, that I am THRILLED with them.

Here's a few more lousy shots. I'll try to do better later today. My husband and I are looking at land in the Ozarks right now and trying to put in an offer, and I am applying to go back to graduate school full-time next fall, so things are sort of insane around here.

Here's one of the cockerel with the "mille fleur" colored pullet on the left.


Here's the light "milky" colored pullet. They all have nice, yellow legs.


As for my older, Skyline birds, I'm thinking I'll keep this cockerel. He was the tiny one, if you remember, but he's caught up and has more width in the back. He's got a calmer temperament, the best coloring, and nice yellow legs. His comb points are not evenly distributed - I'm not a real fan of his comb, and the pinched tails are killing me. I'm not 100% decided.


Here's my other possible guy from the Skyline birds. Way too dark, but more even comb, decent size compared to the others, yellow legs, a bit assertive. Longer tail feathers, but just as pinched.


Okay. I'll try to take some pictures of the chicks later today.