Fat Mom wants Surgery

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Here is a snipit from an article on the subject. I've (Censored) the swearing. I have also disabled some links because of the nasty comments on those pages in the comment sections.


"#2. We're Hard-Wired to Have a Double Standard

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Here's a good way to ruin your afternoon. Go on the Internet and find any discussion thread that brings up overweight people (like this or this one). Stand back and watch as a crowd absolutely rantsabout how incredibly easy it is to lose weight, and how incredibly lazy you have to be to get fat. The conclusion will be that being fat is literally a moral failing and the sign of a bad, disgusting human being. It's to the point of actual anger and violence directed toward the overweight in real life -- the fat are one of the last groups people can openly hate.
But now take any of those people and try using the same logic with their weaknesses:
"You're struggling to get by on your income? I can't imagine how lazy a person would have to be tonot be wealthy. Just go out there and make money! Duh!"
"You don't have a girlfriend? I can't imagine how much of an antisocial (censored) you have to be to not get a beautiful woman to love you. How hard is it to get off your (Censored) and be a dynamic, sexy, personable human being?"

"You drink alcohol? Or smoke cigarettes? Or smoke pot? Why don't you try not doing those things?"
"You suffer from depression or anxiety? Uh, have you tried not?"
Now watch as they rattle off ten thousand extenuating circumstances for their embarrassing problem (the economy is bad, women are (censored) , I have an addiction) while completely rejecting all of the similar causes of obesity.
The Science:
It's called the fundamental attribution error.

It's a universal thought process that says when other people screw up, it's because they're stupid or evil. But when we screw up, it's totally circumstantial. Like if you notice a coworker showing up to work high on mescaline, it's because he's an out-of-control peyote hound. But if you show up at work high on mescaline, it's because you had a flat tire and you needed the distraction.
The process feels so obvious when explained -- we simply lack information about the context in which the other person screwed up, and so we fill it in with our own. If we've never been fat, then we assume the fat guy feels the exact same level of hunger as we do, that his metabolism is the same, that his upbringing is the same, that the spare time and energy he can devote to exercise is the same as ours. We think that both of us faced the exact same fork in the road and only one of us chose to eat churros.
The reality is, of course, that you were on completely different roads. The assumption that everyone's circumstances are identical is so plainly wrong as to be borderline insane, but everyone does it. Pundits and politicians alike mock the unemployed as lazy, even though their own data shows that for every five unemployed people, there is only one open job. "I don't understand, can't you all just become radio talk show hosts like me?"

So During Your Next Argument, Remember ...
Forget about talking politics with your crazy shop teacher for a second. If you're consistently doing this when arguing with your significant other, that's a good sign that the relationship is dying. Listen for it -- when you forgot to do the dishes, it was because you had a thousand other things on your mind. When she forgot, it's because she doesn't care. If you find yourself automatically dismissing your partner's explanations as "excuses," you've gone to a bad place from which most relationships do not return. "


That is very true. I did not mean what I said in a critisizing way. I know I have my own faults as well and work for them to get better. What I ment was that even though your health is failing, your going to lose your job, your a miserable person because of the problems and you still do not want to change. That is what I dont understand. And for the mother in the article to just want to jump to surgery because she does not like diets or working out. I think that is alot safer route then surgery.
 
That is very true. I did not mean what I said in a critisizing way. I know I have my own faults as well and work for them to get better. What I ment was that even though your health is failing, your going to lose your job, your a miserable person because of the problems and you still do not want to change. That is what I dont understand. And for the mother in the article to just want to jump to surgery because she does not like diets or working out. I think that is alot safer route then surgery.

don't feel bad if you were. I do it too. It is just one of those things we have to identify when we do it, and then try and stop it. Kind of funny, by trying to stop our natural inclination to use a double standard, we are in fact creating a double standard in itself!
 
I AM FAT AND I AM LAZY and I would never go to the doctor to get a gastic bypass because he would laugh at me telling me if I don't try to loose he is not going to give me one. I am not 300 lbs I hover over 179 and 185 I am 5'5" and I would be the first to say I should not have one not only because of weight (don't weight enough and hope I never get to that weight) but because I don't like to excercise I have a herniated back and the pain can be so bad I can hardly walk but this is not why I am over weight I plain andsimplly like to eat.

I am honest and most sincere and know I do not need one.


I would never have the government to pay for this.

Rhayden
 
Very well said Featherfinder that is exactly how I feel about it also.


That is very true. I did not mean what I said in a critisizing way. I know I have my own faults as well and work for them to get better. What I ment was that even though your health is failing, your going to lose your job, your a miserable person because of the problems and you still do not want to change. That is what I dont understand. And for the mother in the article to just want to jump to surgery because she does not like diets or working out. I think that is alot safer route then surgery.
 
Most people feel that they are overweight through no fault of their own. However they are wrong and are just like the two people above. If you don't eat too much, you don't get overweight. Oh yes, there are people for whom it isn't their fault. They are rare though, considering the amount of people and overwrought people there are on this earth. Sorry, it's just true. Should we laugh at them? Of course not! Pity is more appropriate. Whatever the reason they weigh too much. Matters not at all. I've been overweight and now probably still am according to the old weight charts. But not according to the new. I've lost weight. How? By not eating as much. What a concept.
 
I have always been a big guy. 6'3" 300lbs. High blood pressure, rapid heart rate and finally diabetes. I always thought I was healthy until the diabetes part. I decided to do something. Started walking. Walked about 15 minutes a day. Thought it was going to kill me. Then I started eating a little better. No soft drinks. The weight started falling off. I went from 312 lbs down to 250lbs from May until October. Felt 1000% better. Glucose levels fell to within normal levels. Heart rate came down considerably. Blood pressure is way down.

I got up to walking 35 miles a week. I was the poster child of turning my life around until my father got sick and passed away in December. Back to my old ways. Except for the soft drinks. Got back up to 274. I guess the depression I was in from my fathers passing got me off my game.

In March we started a weightloss program at work. Today I weigh 254. I lost 20 lbs by watching my caloric intake and exercising. Nothing major. Just walking on a treadmill at night or walking during the day when I have a chance. Walking is addictive. I love doing it. You just have to get up and do it.

I hear all sorts of excuses. I don't have time to exercise. Exercising makes me gain weight. I love eating. I have no self control. I assure you that I love eating as much as anyone. Probably more. I still eat what I want but I eat a serving of what I want. I don't sit and eat a whole bag of chips, I eat a serving of chips. I still eat large meals but I do it once or twice a week. If I eat a huge meal I eat less the other two meals of the day. I eat a little more often. I eat apples or carrots for snacks.

If you really put your mind to it you can do it.

Darin
 
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way to go!!!

I have always been a big guy. 6'3" 300lbs. High blood pressure, rapid heart rate and finally diabetes. I always thought I was healthy until the diabetes part. I decided to do something. Started walking. Walked about 15 minutes a day. Thought it was going to kill me. Then I started eating a little better. No soft drinks. The weight started falling off. I went from 312 lbs down to 250lbs from May until October. Felt 1000% better. Glucose levels fell to within normal levels. Heart rate came down considerably. Blood pressure is way down.

I got up to walking 35 miles a week. I was the poster child of turning my life around until my father got sick and passed away in December. Back to my old ways. Except for the soft drinks. Got back up to 274. I guess the depression I was in from my fathers passing got me off my game.

In March we started a weightloss program at work. Today I weigh 254. I lost 20 lbs by watching my caloric intake and exercising. Nothing major. Just walking on a treadmill at night or walking during the day when I have a chance. Walking is addictive. I love doing it. You just have to get up and do it.

I hear all sorts of excuses. I don't have time to exercise. Exercising makes me gain weight. I love eating. I have no self control. I assure you that I love eating as much as anyone. Probably more. I still eat what I want but I eat a serving of what I want. I don't sit and eat a whole bag of chips, I eat a serving of chips. I still eat large meals but I do it once or twice a week. If I eat a huge meal I eat less the other two meals of the day. I eat a little more often. I eat apples or carrots for snacks.

If you really put your mind to it you can do it.

Darin
 
Most people feel that they are overweight through no fault of their own. However they are wrong and are just like the two people above. If you don't eat too much, you don't get overweight. Oh yes, there are people for whom it isn't their fault. They are rare though, considering the amount of people and overwrought people there are on this earth. Sorry, it's just true. Should we laugh at them? Of course not! Pity is more appropriate. Whatever the reason they weigh too much. Matters not at all. I've been overweight and now probably still am according to the old weight charts. But not according to the new. I've lost weight. How? By not eating as much. What a concept.

I agree completely. The amount of people in this country that are overweight these days is shocking. In the 80's and 90's people were more healthy than they are today. Sure, there are still people with health issues (like thyroid) that make more difficult to maintain a healthy weight. But the majority of people are from eating too much of bad food.
 
I have always been a big guy. 6'3" 300lbs. High blood pressure, rapid heart rate and finally diabetes. I always thought I was healthy until the diabetes part. I decided to do something. Started walking. Walked about 15 minutes a day. Thought it was going to kill me. Then I started eating a little better. No soft drinks. The weight started falling off. I went from 312 lbs down to 250lbs from May until October. Felt 1000% better. Glucose levels fell to within normal levels. Heart rate came down considerably. Blood pressure is way down.

I got up to walking 35 miles a week. I was the poster child of turning my life around until my father got sick and passed away in December. Back to my old ways. Except for the soft drinks. Got back up to 274. I guess the depression I was in from my fathers passing got me off my game.

In March we started a weightloss program at work. Today I weigh 254. I lost 20 lbs by watching my caloric intake and exercising. Nothing major. Just walking on a treadmill at night or walking during the day when I have a chance. Walking is addictive. I love doing it. You just have to get up and do it.

I hear all sorts of excuses. I don't have time to exercise. Exercising makes me gain weight. I love eating. I have no self control. I assure you that I love eating as much as anyone. Probably more. I still eat what I want but I eat a serving of what I want. I don't sit and eat a whole bag of chips, I eat a serving of chips. I still eat large meals but I do it once or twice a week. If I eat a huge meal I eat less the other two meals of the day. I eat a little more often. I eat apples or carrots for snacks.

If you really put your mind to it you can do it.

Darin

Congrats and good for you!
 

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