Faverolles Thread

[Cloverleaf Farm]

Vaccines....

I'll start this by saying that I do not vaccinate. For anything. I prefer to breed resistant birds.

Anyway...I was told by my state Vet's office, (so true for my area, not sure of others, your state vet's office would be who to ask) that I should not vaccinate for things like Fowl Pox or Newcastle, as those are "hot" vaccines, and are intended to be used in the event of an outbreak, to try to keep active disease from spreading through your birds, and to minimize losses.

ILT - there are two forms of that vaccine, and if you are going to do it, you need to make sure that you use a tissue culture vaccine, and practice strict quarantine for 60 days after vaccinating. Jean Ribbeck (pipsnpeeps on here) is a good source of info on this, and also sells single vials of the vaccine.

Mareks - there used to be a killed virus vaccine you could use without issue, but it isn't around anymore. You have to use a modified live now, so while the risk is very low, there is the possibility of your birds shedding live virus with this vaccine.

 

[Davidally122]

I have a question. I have a 2 1/2 wk old salmon faverolle chick. She has the feathered legs and coloring, but she has never had the puffy cheeks. Very slim faced. She is from a hatchery, not a breeder. Would that matter or is this common?

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

I have a question. I have a 2 1/2 wk old salmon faverolle chick. She has the feathered legs and coloring, but she has never had the puffy cheeks. Very slim faced. She is from a hatchery, not a breeder. Would that matter or is this common?

It matters, but it's also common with hatchery birds. Sounds like she's missing the beard gene. If she didn't have puffy cheeks even as a tiny chick, she won't have them.

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

Thought I'd share a pic of my "Red, White & Blue Salmon Faverolle" I painted today

 

[Nambroth]

Mareks - there used to be a killed virus vaccine you could use without issue, but it isn't around anymore. You have to use a modified live now, so while the risk is very low, there is the possibility of your birds shedding live virus with this vaccine.

I am not trying to argue-- I respect your opinion as a breeder of very fine birds and am wondering if you have information I do not. I have been researching Marek's heavily this year as it is in my flock. I haven't come across one piece of literature that indicates that any live virus other than turkey's herpesvirus (turkey Marek's) is used, which can not cause chickens to become symptomatic. A vaccinated bird can go on to become exposed to chicken Marek's and then shed live Marek's virus without showing symptoms, but the vaccination itself cannot cause the shedding of live chicken Marke's. I actually purchased some of this, this year, as it is the only type available to the consumer. Do you know of any sources that suggest otherwise?

 

[mame1616]

Quote: It's not that the bird sheds the live vaccine so much as the site of injection sheds cells for some time. A scab forms at the site that can take some time to fall of, and these are the dangerous cells.

Call Doc Brown at First State Vet - he's a great source for this stuff.

 

[Davidally122]

So even as she matures, she'll never develop the beard?

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

So even as she matures, she'll never develop the beard?

not if she never had one. They will often lost their beard for a time during adolescence, but if they didn't have one at hatch, they won't have one as an adult.

 

[n8ivetxn]

Thought I'd share a pic of my "Red, White & Blue Salmon Faverolle" I painted today

Nice painting, will it be auctioned at the next fowl show?

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

Thought I'd share a pic of my "Red, White

Nice painting, will it be auctioned at the next fowl show?

LOL well, I'm just getting started, and if they don't sell well at the swap, I may have some extras