Faverolles Thread

The light vs dark coloration refers to body coloration. However color should be secondary to trying to get a good Faverolles type. It can get confusing. Do you have a copy of the APA SOP?

Ok thank you. I have read the standard summarized on the club website. I don't yet have the apa standard book yet. It is on my list of purchases. I am planning on buying the color version. I feel like there are lots of nuances that I am still trying to figure out. I do know that type is most important but then I have read that color can be a disqualifier too. So just trying to sort it all out. Thanks for being patient!
 
The more Faverolles You see the easier it will be to notice the differences. Yours are on the better side of color shape and style…..they are nice. If You get a chance, begin this thread and see the variety of Faverolles pictured. www.feathersite.com is another good site to see….. In showing i think its more being the right color for the variety, but comb, feet, width, shape, conformation, are needed to be there too.

On my profile pictures, under default, i have my favorite hen (Cloverleaf origins) in the upper right and the 2 hens in the bottom left corner are hatchery i picked up at the feed store that year. I never could find out which they came from, but they are examples of non conforming color and shape.
 
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Thank you elizmartin. I think it is just going to take some time to train my eye. Starting the thread again is a good idea. I've read it in the beginning but I already feel like I have more knowledge than I did when I first read it. I will check out your profile pics too! This is a great thread and nice to get input from foks that have been there done that.
 
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If you're looking for easy, you've picked the wrong bird! But, when you get it right? There's no bird that can compare with it's beauty! They are definitely worth the time and effort.

There's a lot going on at the same time - you can have a poorly-typed bird with perfect color, or a bird with great type that has less-than desirable color. Generally, unless the second bird has atrocious color, you go with them, That being said, I like almost all of your females - you're pretty lucky to have such a nice group!

I didn't really notice the black flecks you mentioned in the hens. When we mentioned black flecks, it looks like someone flicked black paint over the beard and breast. Sometimes it can be quite severe. Those black flecks can contribute good beard and breast color in their sons.

I did notice the uneveness of color in the salmon part, however. In the group shot, with the darker pullet in front - compare that bird to the one in the back left. See how there are two distinct areas of color? You ideally want an even tone from the back of the head to the tail.
 
Thanks mame1616. I have begun to realize there are lots of things to pay attention to! I will get it all with time. Thank you for pointing out the differences in color unevenness, I have noticed that as well. The two "darker" pullets have much more even color distribution than the three lighter pullets.

The three lighter pullets seem to have a color break around the hackles. The dark flecks are really hard to see in the pictures now that I look at them again. It is almost like the feathers have a bit of black tipping. Either way...it sounds like I have a pretty good bunch to start with and I need to focus on type, toes, combs, even distribution of color, white beards and clear breasts. With type being the most important to start.

I am sure I will have more questions. Hopefully I won't be too annoying.
 
We have some really good people here with lots of experience…I am still a novice and have immersed myself in the last 5 years and have been lucky to receive awesome birds from some wonderful people.
 
Thanks mame1616. I have begun to realize there are lots of things to pay attention to! I will get it all with time. Thank you for pointing out the differences in color unevenness, I have noticed that as well. The two "darker" pullets have much more even color distribution than the three lighter pullets.

The three lighter pullets seem to have a color break around the hackles. The dark flecks are really hard to see in the pictures now that I look at them again. It is almost like the feathers have a bit of black tipping. Either way...it sounds like I have a pretty good bunch to start with and I need to focus on type, toes, combs, even distribution of color, white beards and clear breasts. With type being the most important to start.

I am sure I will have more questions. Hopefully I won't be too annoying.
What the pullets have is ticking. I have had some with it before, and I still used them for breeding. I haven't seen it in a while in mine but I'm sure it will appear again someday. If not that then extra toes or nails, or split wing. Something new always manages to pop up!
 
Thanks mame1616. I have begun to realize there are lots of things to pay attention to! I will get it all with time. Thank you for pointing out the differences in color unevenness, I have noticed that as well. The two "darker" pullets have much more even color distribution than the three lighter pullets.

The three lighter pullets seem to have a color break around the hackles. The dark flecks are really hard to see in the pictures now that I look at them again. It is almost like the feathers have a bit of black tipping. Either way...it sounds like I have a pretty good bunch to start with and I need to focus on type, toes, combs, even distribution of color, white beards and clear breasts. With type being the most important to start.

I am sure I will have more questions. Hopefully I won't be too annoying.


Keep asking! It's a great benefit to the breed when people learn about what to aim for BEFORE they start breeding. It can take many, many generations to get the bad genes out of lines - sometimes they never go away - so it's not worth jumping in without having the right info. You have good stock to work with, which is already ahead of a lot of people.

Thanks for getting the info first before starting your program!
 

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