Faverolles Thread

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What can I say, Peter? When it comes to medicines or other health stuff, I don't take no for an answer. I just put a scalpel to my JG hen's foot last night to work on her bumblefoot, and I have no problem tube feeding, or even giving nebulizer treatments at four in the morning. But baths? Maybe I'm just not that organized at it, but to me it's a big wet sweaty job, so I only do it for birds I'm showing. The rest I keep an eye on, check for lice or other skin stuff, and then leave them alone to be happy in their "non-show-quality" lives.

The drop dead thing? 90% of them are healthy, looking great, eating great, then dead. The others have a bad few hours - puffed up, tired - and then they die. No other symptoms - runny noses, bubbly eyes, coughing, wheezing, diarrhea, swollen faces - nothing, except they're dead. They're usually young, anywhere from 3 to 8 months. Some folks have suggested it's something in my soil or the surrounding areas that the older birds have become immune to, which is the most reasonable explanation. It certainly seems to affect my more expensive birds than my Agway-moment-of-weakness birds. (Naturally!) Once they hit adulthood, I rarely lose one, which is why I generally like to buy older pullets. Like I said, I had a necropsy done on one of them, and the vet found nothing. It also happens only every once in a while, unless I have a lot of young ones. For instance, I got 15 birds of various ages (3 days to 5 months) in May of this year at chickenstock, and have lost three of them to this, but separated by two weeks, and then not again for almost six weeks. No indication anything was wrong with any one of them. In fact, I have siblings of each of those three and they are doing fine. I have tried doing a light course of Terramycin and similar drugs for a week here and a week there, to try and prevent it, but the only thing it did was give everyone the runs, so then I had to fix that. I've looked in every book, on every website I could find, and nowhere does anyone even mention this type of thing. Like I said, most of the people who've been with poultry for forever say it's just a chicken thing.

Hmm I have never had anything like that really usually lose things to predators and thats about it. I have one hen who is super skinny but I have been worming and doing all that so who knows she is fine other wise just won't put weight on. Everyone else is fat and happy.

Henry
 
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You aren't the only one. I lost one LF pullet this morning and will probably lose another by tomorrow. Lost one pullet and one cockerel a month ago too. But same thing once they reach adulthood (laying age on the pullets) I lose none.

I did have one pullet autopsied last year. While there was no definitive cause of death the consensus was it was a result of the tumor form of Marek's. It causes tumors on the internal organs instead of the usual manifestation in paralysis or the optic form. Given how common Marek's is and that it's happening again this year I believe that's the cause.
 
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I've had people suggest that, but half the ones I've lost have been Ideal Hatchery - by way of the Agway - which should have had a Marek's shot, and the rest are breeder birds. The necropsy found no tumor or blood issues.

Sorry about your pullet - and LF, too?
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Those are what I'm trying to find.
 
I wouldn't assume the hatchery birds have been vaccinated. They will only do it upon request, and it does cost more.

I'd have to go back and look up the report on the pullet I had done but I do remember the tumors that were found were small. The vet felt they were the result of a virus, which led them to the conclusion they came up with. So unfortunately I go from healthy, normal birds, to ones acting slightly off to dead.

I had 9 LF pullets and now I'm down to 6. I had 12 LF cockerels and now have 11. But the one cockerel I lost was an interesting solid red color so of course I lost him.
 
pfmerlin wrote:

Hi All,
Hope everyone is doing well.

Red earlobes - would all of you please go out, count the number of faverolles you have complete (babies not included. as in nothing under 8 months) and get back to me with how many you found to have A) red earlobe B) slight white C) completely enameld. It would not bother me at all to see an overwhelming response to this. I have a reason for asking. Please? You may even let me know via a pvt message as not to disclose info on your flock. I am only interested in %'s from the total number that respond with this info. Thanks in advance if you choose to do it.

Anybody know how Melissa is? Hope ok.

Emmetts mom! Thanks for the email, I am answering several things this morning as thurs is a busy day.

Have fun everyone
Peter

I have four birds. 2 with red earlobes, 1 with slight white, and one with white.
:')​
 
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A few. I will have to investigate these. Will really need help from the people out west on shows. Would love for you to come up north. My sister in law lives in Florida and Georgia is a boring state to drive thru.

If you'd like a current sampling of what either TN or KY offers go to the youth program site.

http://www.apa-abayouthpoultryclub.org/Show_Schedule_Southeast.htm

I'll do regions for a fun rating based on my (old time) experience.
CA for the MOST fun (SW in general). NE 2nd. MidW 3rd. NW (haven't been but it's just gotta be better than the dead last) SE. lol. I'll support someting in TN KY if you so choose either of those states. If you plan it enough in advance I'll even hatch birds just for it.

Cindy, Pam huh. That along with the WD 40 - great dual use!

General statement: feathers on legs doesn't give a bird more susceptibility to scaley leg mite..

peter

The ole Southern boys like to come up my way for a few shows. I need to invade their area sometime.
 
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A few. I will have to investigate these. Will really need help from the people out west on shows. Would love for you to come up north. My sister in law lives in Florida and Georgia is a boring state to drive thru.

If you'd like a current sampling of what either TN or KY offers go to the youth program site.

http://www.apa-abayouthpoultryclub.org/Show_Schedule_Southeast.htm

I'll do regions for a fun rating based on my (old time) experience.
CA for the MOST fun (SW in general). NE 2nd. MidW 3rd. NW (haven't been but it's just gotta be better than the dead last) SE. lol. I'll support someting in TN KY if you so choose either of those states. If you plan it enough in advance I'll even hatch birds just for it.

Cindy, Pam huh. That along with the WD 40 - great dual use!

General statement: feathers on legs doesn't give a bird more susceptibility to scaley leg mite..

peter

The good ole southern boys. They come up my way for a few shows. I need to invade their are sometime.
 
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I tried using vaseline and it just made a mess. Pam was so much easier and it just sprays on. Plus you can make sure it gets under the leg scales.

And while I know feathered legs don't make a bird more susceptable to leg mites, the only ones I've ever had with the problem are feather legs.
 
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I tried using vaseline and it just made a mess. Pam was so much easier and it just sprays on. Plus you can make sure it gets under the leg scales.

And while I know feathered legs don't make a bird more susceptable to leg mites, the only ones I've ever had with the problem are feather legs.

Did you take pics of the birds you got from David?
 

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