Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

[Kassaundra]

Knew you'd pop up and set us straight...

I don't think I've seen your video... and I read all of the FF, and sprouting threads, and natural chicken keeping. Hmm. Maybe post again, anyway? It's that time of year... and I have a hugely unlimited supply of burlap bags from my vice (coffee) roasters.
Do you feed forage every day, or just on and off?

When I start I feed every day.

 

[Kassaundra]

Here is the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPli-XL3fvs&feature=youtu.be

 

[Beekissed]

AletaG- the alfalfa pellets help raise up the protein level in my grains only feed I am starting in a couple days (I am. Trying to finish up last of FF layer first) The protein lever lof the grains is 16%. I give them on the side animal protein like calf liver, red meat, fish, etc. whatever I have leftover from meals. Plus oyster shell & grit feared choice.

Plus I have a chest freezer full of fruits & veggies I got out of my garden all summer & for pm the farmers market. Some of the farmers gave my mom a lot of greens free when she said they were for my hens

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Now I am on the look out for free pumpkins & gourds. And my hunting friends are Savin me livers and hearts also. I can't beat free animal protein and veggies to use all winter

Heck I ask people to save me the turkey carcasses from thanksgiving. They freeze well & the girls think they won the jackpot with a turkey carcass to pick clean

Since the crude protein of alfalfa pellets is 17% I'm not sure you will make any appreciable gains on your current protein percentage with the use of the alfalfa but the crude fiber is 92%, so I'm wondering if the increased fiber would displace nutrients. With research placing distiller's grains at 25% and brewer's grains at 24% protein, with the FF being comparable, I'm thinking there really isn't a need to otherwise boost proteins.

 

[AletaG]

Here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPli-XL3fvs&feature=youtu.be

Thank you! Will get right on watching that. Hopefully will remember to "ovate" ya when I get my privileges back. You can thank that darn murder mystery for that!

Since the crude protein of alfalfa pellets is 17% I'm not sure you will make any appreciable gains on your current protein percentage with the use of the alfalfa but the crude fiber is 92%, so I'm wondering if the increased fiber would displace nutrients. With research placing distiller's grains at 25% and brewer's grains at 24% protein, with the FF being comparable, I'm thinking there really isn't a need to otherwise boost proteins.

Everything I've read as whitepapers, has an increase of usable protein at maybe 0.5-3% , and barley starts out between 10-12% ... And since that's all I am using, except when I'm spiking it with banana peels, pumpkin guts, etc., been adding other sources, animal based, when I can... I'll take your word for it, and just keep an eye on overall chicken happiness...

 

[Beekissed]

Here's the source of that evaluation: http://ingredients101.com/brsgrnd.htm

The difference between distillers grains and brewers grains is the difference between corn and/or rye and barley being used as the primary grain, with the DGs being only 1% higher on protein than the BGs, being 25% and 24% respectively...at least, according to the National Feed and Grain Association.

 

[Triple Willow]

  Might be able to use that at the sentencing in the Dave Leghorn murder trial..... 

I thought so too. Save it and use it if you want to. I can erase it from this thread if you want me too, hate to spoil the big moment! LOL

 

[Angelicisi]

The farmers market here govese left over fruits and not so cute shaped veggies for the girls! Lol I also give them turkey/chicken carcasses cut in half- they LOVE them.
I never thought to freeze the fruits/veggies from the market! Doh. How did that escape me?! I freeze melons and yogurt and they are my best friends all summer knowing I have a freezer of treats. Der. Thank you for the freeze for later reminder!

AletaG- the alfalfa pellets help raise up the protein level in my grains only feed I am starting in a couple days (I am. Trying to finish up last of FF layer first) The protein lever lof the grains is 16%. I give them on the side animal protein like calf liver, red meat, fish, etc. whatever I have leftover from meals. Plus oyster shell & grit feared choice.

Plus I have a chest freezer full of fruits & veggies I got out of my garden all summer & for pm the farmers market. Some of the farmers gave my mom a lot of greens free when she said they were for my hens .

Now I am on the look out for free pumpkins & gourds. And my hunting friends are Savin me livers and hearts also. I can't beat free animal protein and veggies to use all winter

Heck I ask people to save me the turkey carcasses from thanksgiving. They freeze well & the girls think they won the jackpot with a turkey carcass to pick clean

 

[Triple Willow]

Here is a link on fermenting lemons, does not seem like to much salt

http://www.ehow.com/how_8650054_ferment-lemons.html

I know it's bad but I have salt cravings. A good ol' salty lemon and I am in fruit heaven! lol And those real sour granny smith apples sprinkled with salt, good stuff! I've got a thing for sour foods too. Yes I am strange.

 

[beverly evans]

Here is a link on fermenting lemons, does not seem like to much salt

http://www.ehow.com/how_8650054_ferment-lemons.html

Sounds like a winner but what I saw Martha Stewart do ends up with dry preserved lemons that last forever, (almost.)

 

[beverly evans]

I know it's bad but I have salt cravings. A good ol' salty lemon and I am in fruit heaven! lol And those real sour granny smith apples sprinkled with salt, good stuff! I've got a thing for sour foods too. Yes I am strange.

Not strange. Have you ever tasted the oriental treats that are wrapped up like candy and are really sour and salty? I think they are plums. I don't like them but it sounds like you would love them. Check them out sometime from an oriental foods store.