Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

[Beekissed]

Personally, I think bacon and tomato sandwiches w/ mayo are the answer to world peace - but I guess not for pigs though huh? lol Poor Toby, he may run away before morning! I would! lol

...if any of you see a big roo running down the road pick him up and keep on driving! He will love you for it. LOL

And there you have it, folks...exactly why people need to stop equating animals with humans.

I've butchered hundreds of birds in front of this rooster and he has yet to run away from home out of fear of being next. All the folks that think it's cruel to butcher chickens in front of other chickens need to think about that for a moment...I free range...they can leave at any moment and escape inevitable death but they do not. They simply do not have the capacity for that sort of thinking....as they lick the blood from the base of the killing tree, they haven't a thought in the world about how cruel I'm being to those poor chickens I'm killing, nor do they have any fear for their own lives.

They lined up yesterday to get all the tender bits of organs, per usual. They LOVE butchering day!

 

[Kassaundra]

About the tinnitus... working in real loud noise probably helped me get it. I've took some antibiotics but not much. I have took anti-inflamatories quite a bit - ibuprofen, tylenol, a little bit of aspirin. I believe blood pressure and stress just might make it worse. The past couple days mine has been crazy! Mine started about, maybe seven years ago. I believe it started after I was out of the job with all the loud noise. When it first starts it is AWFUL! But I have adjusted to it well I guess. I don't really notice it unless it get real bad. Sometimes you have to turn the tv up louder than it is to hear it. lol

If you think your blood pressure is causing or worsening tinnitus, that NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY with your physician. Blood pressures high enough to affect that are plenty high enough to blow vessels in your eyes, brain, and kidneys.

 

[perchie.girl]

I agree! One of the most common side effects of the use of broad spectrum antibiotics is a yeast infection. It can be bad and evidence in an acute manner like thrush or chlostridium difficile( c. diff.) and even vaginal yeast infection~ or it can be a more systemic, low level of yeast that can affect many body systems and tissues. A fungal/yeast infection is one of the hardest things to get out of your body for various reasons and it's also the hardest to convince the doctor that you may need an antifungal drug...these are pretty hard on the liver and so they are cautious to administer them.

Many believe that most things diagnosed as cancer are just fungal growths that are improperly diagnosed by the medical field...some believe that is quite intentional, as there is very little money to be had on treating fungus and billions to be made on the cancer industry. One saying is that when they evaluate biopsies they don't look for fungus and so they don't see it, as cancer and fungus are often very, very similar..."if you don't look up, you'll never see a duck" sort of thinking.

You can live for years upon years being a yeastie and have any number of symptoms you treat in a palliative manner, all the while ascribing the symptoms to allergies, irritable bowel syndrome, chronic sinusitis, migraines, arthritis, chronic fatigue, chronic lung infections, chronic halitosis, etc. A yeastie person will often crave sweets or starches, which feeds the yeast and also creates more yeast that signals for more sugar and it's a vicious cycle. That cycle needs to stop in order to help starve out that colonization.

One natural antifungal that I've found effective over and over is olive leaf extract~great stuff! Another way to combat harmful yeast infections is with the use of beneficial yeast cultures that can inhibit the overgrowth of the baddies, just like in our chickens.

This struck a note with me. All the symptoms a checklist of sorts.... I went into a doctors office to see if they would take me with no insurance. They said they were full but they had a Naturalpathic doc that had just started sharing offices. She diagnosed me with Candida. Put me on Megadoses of Nystatin in tablet form. Three times a day she said I would be on it for at least a couple of years. I could afford it because the prescription was for a month at a time. But it was still expensive. It helped some....

Is that Olive Leaf extract oral?

deb

 

[armorfirelady]

Was it oral or IV?

IV

and wolf I have never tried kefir for my stomach. I've tried yogurt & even the pricey kind that's suppose to make you regular but nothing has worked. The dr said to remove MSG from my diet & maybe I will try that but it's very hard to do. For me at least lol. All I know is after working 20+ yrs in the medical field I've learned meds don't fix everything lol. I've gotten off all meds except 2 for my stomach & replaced them with supplements. My dr is very pleased. As is my liver lol

 

[BCMaraniac]

IV

and wolf I have never tried kefir for my stomach. I've tried yogurt & even the pricey kind that's suppose to make you regular but nothing has worked. The dr said to remove MSG from my diet & maybe I will try that but it's very hard to do. For me at least lol. All I know is after working 20+ yrs in the medical field I've learned meds don't fix everything lol. I've gotten off all meds except 2 for my stomach & replaced them with supplements. My dr is very pleased. As is my liver lol

Vancomycin, maybe??

 

[Beekissed]

This struck a note with me. All the symptoms a checklist of sorts.... I went into a doctors office to see if they would take me with no insurance. They said they were full but they had a Naturalpathic doc that had just started sharing offices. She diagnosed me with Candida. Put me on Megadoses of Nystatin in tablet form. Three times a day she said I would be on it for at least a couple of years. I could afford it because the prescription was for a month at a time. But it was still expensive. It helped some....

Is that Olive Leaf extract oral?

deb

Sure is and I'd put it up against Nystatin any day for effectiveness but without the harshness to the liver. It can be found where they sell herbal meds. I've used it for my kids, my parents, myself and animals, both orally and topically, and it gives good results each time.

It works best if a person also decreases the intake of dietary sugars, particularly complex sugars. Raw honey seems fine and also raw fruits, but anything else inhibits the effectiveness of the herb.

This is the kind I use.... http://www.amazon.com/Olive-Leaf-Ex...1388350849&sr=8-7&keywords=olive+leaf+extract

 

[TexasLisa]

Guys, I'm thinking that Toby has seen his last winter.

I will be thinking of you both!!

Very quickly, I will add...

When my daughter was about 5 or 6, she had spent some time watching this documentary entitled Big Al. It was about an Allosaurus skeleton and life story they put together for him.

Anyway, we were walking out of Target one afternoon and I saw she was walking like this dinosaur and holding her hands like they portrayed this dinosaur's front feet. This was bad enough but the clencher was when she roared a mating call at these people that were going into the store. I wanted to crawl under the nearest car and die!

Where is Art Linkletter when you need him???

About the tinnitus... working in real loud noise probably helped me get it. I've took some antibiotics but not much. I have took anti-inflamatories quite a bit - ibuprofen, tylenol, a little bit of aspirin. I believe blood pressure and stress just might make it worse. The past couple days mine has been crazy! Mine started about, maybe seven years ago. I believe it started after I was out of the job with all the loud noise. When it first starts it is AWFUL! But I have adjusted to it well I guess. I don't really notice it unless it get real bad. Sometimes you have to turn the tv up louder than it is to hear it. lol

My tinnitus changes tunes. Sometimes it is like a violin (very lightly). When I get tired, it gets noisier.

Bee, I was hit with a softball in the mouth. By the end of two softball games, I was totally deaf and had a concussion (imagine that!). After a month I got 1/4 of my hearing back in my right ear. Left ear was totally gone. Hence, the tinnitus. Don't feel bad, I got a cochlear implant 5 years ago and am loving it!!!

Lisa

 

[armorfirelady]

Vancomycin, maybe??

Yes that's it!! I had via IV twice a day for over 3 months. What a pain in the rear.....I couldn't go far unless I took everything with me. And sitting still for an hour or more while it infused was not to my liking. I'm not one to sit around lol

 

[Beekissed]

Wowza, Lisa!!

That must have been a line drive! I've been knocked out with two of the same and knocked out by running into a wall of pitcher once.

I'm so glad you had the implant, though...I bet that was like a miracle!

I don't think a person really thinks about their senses until you start to lose them or hear of another person losing them...then it all gets a little scary. I value my hearing to such a degree that I can't imagine if it started to go..it's so important! My brother lost his smell and taste some years back and we were talking about it over the holidays and it sounded horrible...can you imagine not being able to taste food any longer or smell a fall morning, wood smoke, freshly mowed hay or honeysuckle?

I'm losing my left eye pretty rapidly and some of the night vision in my right eye, so it gets me to thinking about when it's all gone what will I miss the most...so I spend a lot of time reading, looking at God's creation and trying to commit all my loved one's faces to memory.

 

[Beekissed]

Yes that's it!! I had via IV twice a day for over 3 months. What a pain in the rear.....I couldn't go far unless I took everything with me. And sitting still for an hour or more while it infused was not to my liking. I'm not one to sit around lol

WOW. That would kill everything good you ever even thought of having in your body..even good intentions!. That's a big, bad mamma jamma drug and to have it that long....