Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

[Beekissed]

awww..sorry about your lamb. I used to raise and show sheep and goats. I never milked a sheep.It never occur ed to me to even try. I did milk my mare and give the milk with the goats milk to feed out the hogs.. You can make cheese from goats milk and you can separate the cream, The fat globule's are much smaller and it takes a lot of milk to get much cream, but it is not like cows milk and not worth the work to make cream. I do not like the taste of goat milk. I never got over the smell. I disliked milking the goats and we milked twice a day. It was a requirement for the program we were on and for show. Milking competition was fun and my DH enjoyed that. He had several goats that gave a gallon of milk. If i had to milk the goats we would never of had them. I complained the few times I had to do it in the winter. Cold work pullin teets. They do drop kids on the nastiest days. Than you have to get out there in blizzards and storms and milk. Ugh..I do not miss that.

Check out all the sheep cheeses! http://www.artisanalcheese.com/Sheeps-Milk-Cheese/products/1158/

It is said that sheep's milk taste like good, rich Jersey milk and I can believe it...it puts the fat on a lamb like crazy! My Kat was a very milky ewe and would let me reach down and milk her right out in the field if she was busy eating...which she usually was.

Taste

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As already mentioned, sheep’s milk is described as tasting richer and creamier than cow’s milk without the faint tanginess of goat’s milk. If you’ve only drank cow’s milk, switching over to sheep’s milk may take an initial adjustment period but many people prefer its rich taste once they make the change.
Digestibility

Up to seventy-five percent of the world’s population has some degree of lactose intolerance, making it difficult for them to drink milk without symptoms of gassiness and diarrhea. Many people who suffer from lactose intolerance are able to enjoy sheep’s milk without symptoms even though they’re unable to drink goat’s milk or cow’s milk. Sheep’s milk as well as yogurt and cheese made from milk from the sheep may give the lactose intolerant individual the chance to enjoy milk again.
Nutrition

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Sheep’s milk is more nutritious than cow’s milk and goat’s milk. Although it contains higher levels of butterfat, it’s actually lower in saturated fat than other types of milk. The primary fats in sheep’s milk are the heart healthy monounsaturated and polyunsaturated variety. It’s also a source of medium chain triglycerides which may play a role in reducing cholesterol levels. Sheep’s milk is higher in calcium than milk from the cow or goat and is a rich source of other important minerals such as zinc, magnesium, and phosphorus. Milk from sheep is also vitamin rich containing health amounts of vitamins A, D, and E. It’s a particularly good source of the B vitamins including folic acid. Sheep’s milk is also slightly higher in protein than other forms of milk.


Read more: http://healthmad.com/nutrition/the-delicious-and-taste-benefits-of-sheeps-milk/#ixzz2CXEK356w​

Taste

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As already mentioned, sheep’s milk is described as tasting richer and creamier than cow’s milk without the faint tanginess of goat’s milk. If you’ve only drank cow’s milk, switching over to sheep’s milk may take an initial adjustment period but many people prefer its rich taste once they make the change.
Digestibility

Up to seventy-five percent of the world’s population has some degree of lactose intolerance, making it difficult for them to drink milk without symptoms of gassiness and diarrhea. Many people who suffer from lactose intolerance are able to enjoy sheep’s milk without symptoms even though they’re unable to drink goat’s milk or cow’s milk. Sheep’s milk as well as yogurt and cheese made from milk from the sheep may give the lactose intolerant individual the chance to enjoy milk again.
Nutrition

Read more in Nutrition
« Top 10 Deceivingly Delicious Treats to Avoid
How to Eat Healthy at a Fried Chicken Restaurant »​

Sheep’s milk is more nutritious than cow’s milk and goat’s milk. Although it contains higher levels of butterfat, it’s actually lower in saturated fat than other types of milk. The primary fats in sheep’s milk are the heart healthy monounsaturated and polyunsaturated variety. It’s also a source of medium chain triglycerides which may play a role in reducing cholesterol levels. Sheep’s milk is higher in calcium than milk from the cow or goat and is a rich source of other important minerals such as zinc, magnesium, and phosphorus. Milk from sheep is also vitamin rich containing health amounts of vitamins A, D, and E. It’s a particularly good source of the B vitamins including folic acid. Sheep’s milk is also slightly higher in protein than other forms of milk.


Read more: http://healthmad.com/nutrition/the-delicious-and-taste-benefits-of-sheeps-milk/#ixzz2CXEK356w​

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[Lacy Blues]

This is also a great way to make buttermilk pancakes when you don't have any buttermilk. Just let it sit for 5 minutes or so before adding to the pancake batter. Yum!

Ooooo, thanks for that. We've been out of buttermilk for pancakes and didn't know about this. How much do you think you should add to how much milk?

TMI? No Way!!! This is one of those things I don't get tired of reading and learning from, thank you for sharing your knowledge!

You wouldn't use powdered whey for animal feed because of the heat treatment then?

DH just told a coworker a few weeks ago he half expected to come home one day and see a dairy cow grazing - little does he know how tempting it is!

X2. I'm really tired tonight but apparently I'm not brain dead. Some evenings I just have to skim over those detailed, knowledgeable posts cuz my brain just can't follow it. Poor thing.

Check out all the sheep cheeses! http://www.artisanalcheese.com/Sheeps-Milk-Cheese/products/1158/

It is said that sheep's milk taste like good, rich Jersey milk and I can believe it...it puts the fat on a lamb like crazy! My Kat was a very milky ewe and would let me reach down and milk her right out in the field if she was busy eating...which she usually was.

Bee, what kind of sheep did you have that gave you plenty of milk? oh... a Katahdin?

I've been looking at sheep (black belly barbados) but not sure if I want to take the plunge as we have NO pasture here and I would have to feed them each and every meal. Not to keen on doing that, not with hay prices the way they are. If I could find a way to do it (perhaps fodder) then I would seriously consider it. Need to be able to grow it year round though.

 

[cutechick2010]

This sounds great and I hope you will pardon my ignorance, but what is clabbered milk?

Clabbered milk is milk that has been allowed to sit out and naturally sour, or has been hurried along by adding vinegar. It's healthier if you allow it to go naturally, but I was in a hurry this time.

P.S. Do NOT try this with pasteurized milk-raw milk sours naturally and is safe and healthy to consume... But pasteurized milk will ROT instead.

 

[cutechick2010]

TMI? No Way!!! This is one of those things I don't get tired of reading and learning from, thank you for sharing your knowledge!

You wouldn't use powdered whey for animal feed because of the heat treatment then?

DH just told a coworker a few weeks ago he half expected to come home one day and see a dairy cow grazing - little does he know how tempting it is!

Have you heard of a book called The Untold Story of Milk, by Ron Schmid? If you haven't read it already, I would highly recommend it. I will warn you though-you will never want to drink store-bought milk again!

 

[cutechick2010]

Did you know that you have to bend over double to milk those miniature dairy cows unless you build a substantial platform on which they can be trained to stand upon while you are milking them? Milking a standard cow can be strain enough on the back but to milk a very short cow is even more. It sounds cute and like they would be less work and worry but then you also have to find a short and tiny bull with which to breed them so that they can have calves and stay freshened.

Twice the expense, twice the trouble...all to get a smaller cow. Why not just get a goat?

I am fortunate, the guy I buy most of my hay from has a very nice herd of mini Jerseys! I am going to be borrowing a cow from him in a few weeks, I hope one of his minis. I have milked standard sized Jerseys, so I know what that is like, now to find out about the little ones. I don't hand milk, BTW, I use a machine, so my back will be fine either way LOL.

The minis do have substantial advantages, one is they take less space, don't tear up the ground as much due to lower weight, take less feed, and even give a more manageable amount of milk for one family.

I do have Nubian goats ,and I adore my goats, they are my babies. I make soaps and lotion from their milk. But I really, really prefer the taste of the cow's milk, especially that sweet rich Jersey milk! Hmmmm...... A nice frothy glass of cold milk and a couple of cookies sound great now, I must have talked myself into it, LOL.

 

[cutechick2010]

IF I were ever to get a dairy animal, it most certainly would be a goat! But there's no denying the cuteness of a pint sized jersey!! (pun intended) I like the idea of less feed, and less milk from a smaller cow, while still getting cow's milk, but the cost would definitely be prohibitive. The goat poses the same bending or platform issue, but also would be easier in every other respect and muuuuch cheaper! I've read you can milk a goat once a day instead of the required twice a day for a cow. Just a shame goats can't produce cow's milk, I really like being able to separate the cream, so much versatility.

Actually, you can milk either a cow or goat once a day instead of two. They produce by supply and demand, if they don't have the demand the supply will go down as well.

 

[pichuris]

Really like your idea too! about how much feed does this hold? I am still flipping back thru the thread, i jotted down things i wanted to revisit.

Sorry for the delay my shift got changed at work.
5 gallon bucket of wet feed. I havent measured in pounds but eight easter size buckets of dry feed.

I'd like to know this as well
And I can ferment with pellets right?
Just got turkey finisher pellets, as regular grower was far to low in protein for a mixed flock that does include turkeys as well.
The regular grower (only 1 choice) was 15% protein. Starter was 17% (as was layer) and the turkey finisher is 24%. That high of a % is okay this time of year, no?

Ive fermented pellets, crumbles, powder and grains it all works. Your pellets will not look like pellets in the end though.
im not sure about your second question.

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

I loved having sheep growing up, of course mom did most of the work, but they're relatively low maintenance from what I remember. Except I remember they always seemed to pick the coldest wettest early spring nights to lamb on. I think we lost one or two to the cold over the years, but overall they are easy livestock. We had one dorset cross ewe that lambed twins or triplets alternately every year. We sold lambs every year and I would keep one for 4-H, which got auctioned off at the end of the fair and we would keep another for our own freezer. One year, I spent a lot of time with my 4-H lamb and it was my best buddy, followed me around everywhere like a dog. I BEGGED mom to let me keep him, only time I ever made a fuss about having to sell one. She said no, and I bawled my eyes out in the auction ring while I held my best buddy for people to bid on and I swore off lamb then and there in honor of my little buddy that our insurance man ate. I haven't eaten lamb in nearly 20 years, more out of habit now than for any sentimentality. Still breaks my heart to think I sold that guy off to slaughter. The real kicker is when we dispersed the flock, Mom got to keep HER favorite ewe as a pet. NO FAIR!!

That's so sad...

I know parents try to teach the "reality" but i am always open to the exception. 4H is tough on kids, It does teach good sustainablility, but you got to let things be flexible.

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

There are 2 black chicks, 1 yellow & 1 orange & black. 1 black chick and the yellow chick have fuzzy legs. 1 of them is an EE chick, but I don't know which one. There are 4 possible fathers. 1)Blue Cochin. 2) Salmon Faverole. 3) EE & 4) RIR/EE.

I put Momma & chicks in the Brooder so they could have constant access to the FF.

AWWWW! i love the lil fuzzies, just precious!

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Sorry for the delay my shift got changed at work.
5 gallon bucket of wet feed. I havent measured in pounds but eight easter size buckets of dry feed.
Ive fermented pellets, crumbles, powder and grains it all works. Your pellets will not look like pellets in the end though.
im not sure about your second question.

no worries, real life always comes first. Glad you have time to spend with us, i agree its hard to find any free time!