FINALLY! SWOLLEN EYE SINUS LUMP SWELLING CURE TREATMENT

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Casportpony
as per yur suggestion
I looked this url up
It looks like it is for pennicillan
Clavamox:

USES OF THIS MEDICATION
Amoxicillin is regarded as having a fairly broad spectrum against many bacteria thus it is used both on organisms known to be sensitive to it plus it is a good selection when the sensitivity of bacteria is unknown. It is especially helpful in anaerobic infections (those which grow without the benefit of oxygen). Typical uses might include:
In short, anything amoxicillin can do, the combination drug will also do PLUS the combination can kill Staphylococci.

INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER DRUGS
When the organism in a serious infection cannot be isolated, a common strategy is to attempt to "cover" for all possible bacteria. The amoxicillin-clavulanate combination is frequently used concurrently with other antibiotics for this purpose. A synergistic combination is believed to occur between amoxicillin and members of the quinolone class of antibiotic (enrofloxacin, marbofloxacin, orbifloxacin etc.)
Methotrexate, a common chemotherapy agent, can build up to toxic levels when used at the same time as amoxicillin.

SIDE EFFECTS
Some individuals experience nausea with this medication. Giving the medication with food seems to reduce this effect.

SPECIAL CAUTIONS
The oral suspension should be refrigerated, though if it is mistakenly left out of the refrigerator for one day, this is not a problem. The oral suspension should be discarded after 10 days.
Amoxicillin may be given with or without food.
Amoxicillin will cross the placenta in a pregnant patient but is felt to be safe for use during pregnancy.
Human formulations have differing amounts of amoxicillin and clavulanic acid and strengths are usually expressed only in the amounts of amoxicillin present. It may be challenging to find a human product that is truly comparable to the veterinary product.
http://www.marvistavet.com/clavamox.pml
 
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casportpony said:
Clavamox:
http://www.marvistavet.com/clavamox.pml

Baytril:
http://www.marvistavet.com/enrofloxacin.pml

Cipro:
http://www.marvistavet.com/ciprofloxacin.pml
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baytril
http://www.marvistavet.com/enrofloxacin.pml


Human beings have been at odds with microbes since the beginning of time and the quest for new medications continues even today. When sulfa drugs came on the scene in the 1940's, an "age of antibiotics" was born and a new dimension had opened in the combat against microbes. From there a proliferation of antibiotics developed, each new medication exploiting a different aspect of bacterial metabolism until it seemed that the war on microbes would soon be won.
Despite this progress, one particular bacterial species remained seemingly invincible: Pseudomonas aeruginosa. This species of bacteria was able to change its antibiotic susceptibility with each antibiotic exposure, become resistant to multiple drugs in response to every medication used against it. Eventually, the aminoglycoside class of antibiotics was developed and there was finally a way to kill Pseudomonas fairly reliably but the price was that medication was injectable only, necessitating hospitalization for the patient, and potential kidney damage could result with prolonged use.
A major breakthrough against Pseudomonas came with the development of the fluoroquinolone class of antibiotics (including enrofloxacin, its counterpart for human use ciprofloxacin, and several others). These medications are active against many bacterial types including Pseudomonas. They are available as tablets and are not associated with the serious side effects that plagued the aminoglycoside group. Enrofloxacin is the veterinary fluoroquinolone introduced by Bayer to address the need for treatment of Pseudomonas infections in pets. It was the first quinolone for veterinary use and despite decades of use, still dominates the quinolone class for animal use.
Fluoroquinolones act by deactivating bacterial enzymes necessary for the transcription of DNA. DNA is very tightly coiled in order to fit inside a cell. Segments of DNA to be used in protein production must be uncoiled by an enzyme called DNA gyrase. The fluoroquinolone antibiotics deactivate DNA gyrase making the reading of DNA impossible. The bacterial cell dies. Mammalian DNA gyrase is of a completely different shape and remains untouched.

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DNA strand
(Photocredit: NIH Public Image Library)​

USES OF THIS MEDICATION
This medication may be used in either dogs or cats to combat different types of infections, especially those involving Pseudomonas. Enrofloxacin is also active against Staphylococci, and thus is commonly used for skin infections.

SIDE EFFECTS
  • At approximately ten times the recommended dose vomiting and diarrhea may be seen with this medication. At normal doses, this should not be seen. Dogs with Pseudomonas ear infections require very high doses of enrofloxacin and nausea may indeed become a problem.
  • In immature dogs (less than 8 months of age in small or medium dog breeds, older in larger breeds) damage to joint cartilage can occur. This phenomenon is only seen in growing dogs and does not seem to be a problem in cats. It is preferable not to use this medication in puppies unless the severity of the infection present warrants it.
  • The use of enrofloxacin can produce crystals in urine. These crystals may show up on a laboratory test thus it is important to be aware of this side effect. Enrofloxacin crystals should not be confused with more clinically relevant struvite, oxalate, or urate crystals.
  • See retinal damage below regarding the recently described feline retinal problem associated with enrofloxacin at higher doses.
 
Cipro:
http://www.marvistavet.com/ciprofloxacin.pml

Ciprofloxacin

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Hello, I have a chicken who has an eye problem. The eye has been closed most of the time for about a week now. I have been putting Terramycin opthalmic ointment into the eye as many times a day as I think about it. This has helped somewhat, but she still has a problem. She has been/is currently on Tylan powder in the water, and previous to that was on doxycycline (all chickens have had a respiratory problem over the last week or so).

I have tried to buy the ciprofloxacin eye drops talked about on this thread, but it seems they are impossible to buy here in Thailand. Are there any other recommendations please? I'm not sure what to try next!

Note: All chickens, including the one with the problem eye, have never stopped laying, eating and drinking and are all perfectly active chickens.
 
FROM BYC
pipsandpeeps posted
"Bubbly eye" is usually a sign of bronchitis or LT. Have your bird swabbed and send it in to the avian health lab.

You don't want to get chicks with this stuff going on. Bronchitis will spread fast and can last up to six weeks, but LT is slow spreading, and if the live through it they will be carriers.

another example of why "not to buy adult/started birds", especially if you don't know or can't see where they came from.

keystoebntams posted
The bully eye is a sign of conjunctivitis which is comony associated with Infectious Bronchitis(IB) or Infectious Laryngotracheitis(ILT). Your best bet would be to havea necropsy done on your sickest bird, you will not get it back since it will be killed to perform the necropsy.

But immediately get them on an antibiotic like Terramycin, it is specifically formulated to treat respiratort infections. mix it 4 teasponns to 1 gallon of water, keep them cooped up with no other water source and darkness seems to help. keep them on the antibiotic for 10 days and off for 2 weeks, if it comes back retreat,

In the meantime it is best to vaccinate your entire flox except the sick birds with LT-IVAX and an IB vaccine. Do not vaccinate with both the same day, do one then wait about a week and do the other.

brian posted
The eye and conjunctiva are infected. That is not in dispute. Perhaps there is a respiratory infection as well. Before lab work, begin treating with antibiosis empirically now.

For the record, never ever ever put regular household hydrogen peroxide (3%) in any animal's eye. It will burn off all corneal epithelium, down to bowman's layer, and leave it susceptible to the worst opportunistic microbes available. Then you can wind up with a corneal ulcer and blindness. True for humans too.

For now, and speaking only for the eye, apply polysporin, neosporin, erythromycin or bacitracin antibiotic ointment to the affected eye 3 times a day. This can be over-the-counter ointment. It will say not for use in eyes. Use it anyway. Trust me...I'm an eye doc, you can use it.

pipsandpeeps posted

I would not put off lab work. In my opinion this is just not some bacterial thing. You can treat the bird, but definately get them tested. You have just brought something on to your property that may never leave.

You need to find out exactly what it is to either decide to cull or treat the animals since you have chicks on the way.

You do not have to cull your animal at this point. I believe they can test for IB, ILT and coryza with a swab, or they could also just take blood.

As pointed out in other threads most chicken viruses are herpes type viruses, they are there for the life of the bird. Herpes does not go away.

sami posted

flush the eye gently with sterile water..see how it looks..
apply the ointment, as Brian suggested, or antibiotic eye drops.(human kind ok, if you have any)

I'd go for the Tylan 200..
it's available in most farm/feed/livestock stores.
if you are unable to get the Tylan 200, there is Tylan 50..but the amount you'll need will be different.
you'll need syringes (the smallest you can find..1cc if possible), and 25 gauge needles.

best to have a test done..
and if this is CRD..or IB, or ILT...survivors become carriers.

it's possible this is just an eye infection from injury..this bird looks like she's been pecked.
if no other symptoms the eye treatment might be enough.

observe closely for other symptoms..
swollen wattles
wheezing/gurgling/rattling
mucus from beak

please describe the color of the diarrhea.
are they eating and drinking?

they could probably use some vitamins and extra protein, but will wait for droppings description.
 
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TRY THIS ONE

FROM BYC
LESIEB118
Vetericyn is perfectly fine for chickens. I used it on one of my hens that got pecked in the eye. It helped a lot. However, it is not an antibiotic eye ointment. If you need one with an antibiotic, then Terramycin would be the way to go. TSC usually carries it, but every time I go in there the spot is empty! What I did for my hen was wash the eye out with saline solution, then applied the Vetericyn gel on and in her eye.

I do want to stress though that I knew from the start it was a pecking injury because I saw it happen. That treatment would probably only work for an injury or a foreign body, such as dirt, in the eye. If you're dealing with something respiratory, Vetericyn won't cure it. Good luck!


You can get Tylan 50 injectable at Tractor Supply. The dosage for a larger chicken is 1/2cc and for bantams/small is 1/4cc. injected into the breast once a day for 3-5 days. You can also give it orally through an oral syringe, but you'd have to do it for about 5-7 days
 
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TRY THIS ONE:http://www.raising-chickens.org/chicken-eye.html

Chicken Eye Problems​

Chicken eye problems do seem to occur in backyard flocks frequently. There are many different types of eye problems.

In healthy chickens, vision is excellent during day light hours and extremely poor at night. The average chicken is able to see the smallest seeds and bugs, including mites, during the day, but as the sun begins setting, their vision becomes unreliable, causing them to head to the safety of their roost for the night.

Problems can come from injuries or disease including:
  • Viral
  • Bacterial infections
  • Fungal infections
  • Respiratory infections
  • Nutritional deficiencies
  • Nervous system disorders
  • Developmental disorders
  • Genetic problems
Chickens rarely attack each other in such a way to cause chicken eye problems, but roosters jabbing at each other with their sharp spurs or pecking with sharp beaks may do serious damage to any body part.
Hens are less likely to fight, but it happens. In a chicken flock, when a member becomes sick, weak or injured, other flock members out of curiosity or survival instincts may peck mercilessly at it, causing more damage, and possible death. Unsuccessful predator attacks may result in eye damage.
chicken-eye.jpg

These infections and diseases can cause:
  • Cataracts
  • Conjunctivitis
  • Dull expression of the eyes
  • Yellow plaques under the eye lids

An example of on one chicken eye problem is Avian Pox. It is a viral disease that affects many chickens and can affect and be spread by wild bird populations. Blistery lesions are often around the eyes causing swelling with impairment of sight and blindness in severe cases.
Marek's Disease is a viral disease (a form of herpes virus) resulting in a type of cancer. Tumors can grow in the iris causing blindness as well as affecting major organs.
When you first notice an eye problem you should wash the eyes out. Keeping an eye wash on hand is a good idea; something that can easily be squirted into the eye to remove any foreign particles and reveal any damage.
Another good product to have on hand for chicken eye problems is an antibiotic eye ointment, available at many feed stores. If there is injury to the eyeball, the ointment can prevent infection while assisting in a quick healing of the injury. If not damaged too badly, eye injuries heal quickly.
A chicken with impaired vision due to injury or disease should be immediately removed from the flock to protect it and possibly prevent the spread of disease.
Chickens know that the sick and weak draw attention to predators, so they try to drive the weaker members away from the flock. In the process they do more damage, exposing themselves to a possibly contagious disease.
If you aren’t familiar with chicken diseases or find a chicken eye problem with an unknown cause, you might want the help of a good avian vet.
In the country, where chickens are much more popular, you may be able to find a good farm vet through neighbors or friends. Finding one before you have a problem is always a good plan.
The reality is that many sick chickens will never see a vet as their monetary value makes spending $50 to $100 or more unreasonable. But the fact is, even with a small flock, you could lose all due to a contagious disease, plus have a coop and yard that may need months of being empty to make sure disease is gone.




Some chicken eye problems are simple to fix and heal quickly while others are caused by serious disease. Making sure which one you have may save the lives of all your current and future chickens.
If you do have a major disease there may be a vaccination against it. You may need to purchase pre-vaccinated replacement stock to survive in a yard and coop possibly contaminated with disease. Learning what disease it is, from a vet able to test will be a good step in getting rid of it for good.

The eye is a delicate and vital part of a chicken’s ability to remain healthy and active. Their sense of smell is poor, as with most avian species.
Once vision is lost or severely impaired a chicken has little hope for survival; eating, finding water and roosting will be impossible. It’s unrealistic to expect one with serious chicken eye problems to do well in a flock setting, though chickens with one good eye seem to adapt.
Even still, such a handicapped chicken could be expected to be picked on and bullied by other members of the flock. Being allowed access to enough food by the rest of the flock is not guaranteed, so making sure a partially blind chicken isn’t slowly starving to death is important.
 
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TRY THIS ONE
AND DEFINETLY GIVE THE WET MASH PROBIOTIC TO ALL SICK CHICKENS.

gut problem
do this
now the
natural probiotic recipe is is:
1 qt of dry crumbles
2 qts of milk, sweet, sour, or buttermilk or a mixture of all or some
1/4 cup of non flavored yoguart ( no artificial sweetmer)
mix good
NOW THE IMPORTANT INGRIEDIENT FOR EACH CHICK FED
and add 1- 1000 mg of Vit E by cutting the end off the vit E capsule for each chick fed this wet mash
and 1 seliunium tablet crushed for each chick fed this wet mash
putting it in the wet mash
this for each chick your treating
so for each chick use 2 tsp of mixture and 1-1000 mg of Vit E
and 1 sleinium tablet crushed in the wet mash probiotic
twice a day for them till the manure is solid
and feed each chick
2 tsp full of the wet mash probiotic and what they will clean up in 20-30 minutes
then clean wet feeders and restock dry crumbles
do this twice a day for a week
till the chicks manure is right
then quit the Vit E and selinium make just the wet mash probiotic
then once a week for life
All the while after mdicating the birds use
do not use ACV with medication
2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of the chicken water so their gut flora wil be regulated
they should have this at least 3-5 days a week
then three days aweek after they are over coccidiosis
Glenda L Heywood Cassville Missouri
 
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thailand said:
Hello,  I have a chicken who has an eye problem.  The eye has been closed most of the time for about a week now.  I have been putting Terramycin opthalmic ointment into the eye as many times a day as I think about it.  This has helped somewhat, but she still has a problem. She has been/is currently on Tylan powder in the water, and previous to that was on doxycycline (all chickens have had a respiratory problem over the last week or so).

I have tried to buy the ciprofloxacin eye drops talked about on this thread, but it seems they are impossible to buy here in Thailand.  Are there any other recommendations please?  I'm not sure what to try next!

Note:  All chickens, including the one with the problem eye, have never stopped laying, eating and drinking and are all perfectly active chickens.
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Can you post a picture of the eye?
 

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