First Time Egg Candler Scared!

[AmyLynn2374]

And now I'm wondering if a fertile one that fails to develop might be the ones that look kinda "semi-cooked" when opened. Or maybe those are the ones that look kinda brown?

Sidewing, maybe you can check them when you decide to open them? I've never looked for a bullseye in a clear. Lol

I have never either.

That's why I use a Brinsea. It will fertilize infertile eggs

I'll admit they are good...they are not that good...lol

But will it unscramble scrambled eggs?

Obviously not, he's still a little scrambled...lol

 

[scflock]

But will it unscramble scrambled eggs?

It won't, but an LG will fry them for you

 

[AmyLynn2374]

It won't, but an LG will fry them for you

That is soooo true!!!

 

[sideWing]

A little update for y'all.

I did the 14 day candling last night and there was good and bad news. The good news is that 13 out of 14 SLW eggs are developing perfectly. Even the 2 "brown looking" eggs are clearly healthy and growing.

The bad news is that there is only 1 BLR egg hanging in there. There were 2 but it seems that one stopped developing about a week ago. It was a little bit of a gut punch to throw out 12 out of 14 BLR eggs that cost $60. I'm hanging on to that quitter for another week, but I'm pretty sure I have 1 left out of 14.

Interesting note, at least to me. I have a temp gun that I use to make sure the eggs are staying in the correct range on the shell temperature. I started checking temps and they were a little more than a full degree higher than when I checked last week. I thought my son had messed with the controls for a minute until I noticed the bad eggs were nearly 3 degrees cooler than the good ones. So the good eggs are putting out some of their own heat now. This would have put them too close to 103 degrees in my opinion and I adjusted the bator down a degree. If I have any eggs hatch out successfully it's glory to God and because of that temp gun.

So back to the question I posed earlier in this thread. Can you tell if a failed egg is fertile after 14 days of incubation? Here are pics of the open BLR eggs that failed to launch. They do not look like a bullseye to me, but I don't know if they would at this point of incubation.





While I'm here... how does the size of this air sack look? This is about average for all the eggs, good and bad.




Thanks!

 

[WVduckchick]

Very interesting! I'm going to say infertile from looking at the pics. I hope you can get some of your money back, or replacement eggs!

 

[WVduckchick]

Oh, and congrats on the ones that are developing well!! Isn't it fun to watch them move around inside there?

ETA: And the temp gun is interesting. My husband has one, but I never thought to try it. I have 2 eggs left in my bater (unless they hatch before I get home), so maybe I'll be able to check them this evening with his gun.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Ouch that's a lot of money for eggs that don't hatch. I need to do some research to find out if you can still see the "bullseye" after incubation of eggs that don't develope but are still fertile. Because no those don't look like normal fertile eggs, but I couple look like they might have showed a bullseye at a prior time. It's an interesting question. I can not tell from the inside of the air cell as to how much is really there. Trying to invision it upright from the outside I'd think they would look smaller than day 14, but it's too hard to tell (for me) unless I see it marked against the whole of the egg to get the percentage of how much is air cell compared to the rest of the egg.

 

[sideWing]

Ouch that's a lot of money for eggs that don't hatch. I need to do some research to find out if you can still see the "bullseye" after incubation of eggs that don't develope but are still fertile. Because no those don't look like normal fertile eggs, but I couple look like they might have showed a bullseye at a prior time. It's an interesting question. I can not tell from the inside of the air cell as to how much is really there. Trying to invision it upright from the outside I'd think they would look smaller than day 14, but it's too hard to tell (for me) unless I see it marked against the whole of the egg to get the percentage of how much is air cell compared to the rest of the egg.

Thanks Amy. I'm not going to assume they are infertile until I do more research or hear more folks with experience. I do wonder though. I'm glad I have the SLW local egg control group or I would just blame it on my first time incubating.

I will get a few shots of the air sacks candled and marked tonight.

 

[sideWing]

Oh, and congrats on the ones that are developing well!! Isn't it fun to watch them move around inside there?

ETA: And the temp gun is interesting. My husband has one, but I never thought to try it. I have 2 eggs left in my bater (unless they hatch before I get home), so maybe I'll be able to check them this evening with his gun.

This site has an awesome explanation and proper way to use a temp gun on chicken eggs.

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/downloads/download/174/

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Thanks Amy. I'm not going to assume they are infertile until I do more research or hear more folks with experience. I do wonder though. I'm glad I have the SLW local egg control group or I would just blame it on my first time incubating.

I will get a few shots of the air sacks candled and marked tonight.

According to this the blastoderm does degrade after incubation: If you open eggs and don't see the "bullseye" that is because the blastoderm degrades after a couple days of incubation. Again, this doesn't mean the eggs weren't fertile. Taken from: https://www.facebook.com/SunnysideUpMicroFarm/notes