Food Stamps...

[Julie08]

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right..she would not have to claim the BF because they are not married.

Ok, so "technically" she is living in a two-person income home, regardless of being married or not right? Then I have to change my yes to a no. This is part of the US's problem with having people who are not married, living together, one getting aide and one working.

It's Canadas problem too. As long as you are not married or heaven forbid living with the baby Daddy *gasp* you can can assistance but once you try to live in a traditional family setting you cant get anything.

 

[PattiXmas]

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Ok, so "technically" she is living in a two-person income home, regardless of being married or not right? Then I have to change my yes to a no. This is part of the US's problem with having people who are not married, living together, one getting aide and one working.

It's Canadas problem too. As long as you are not married or heaven forbid living with the baby Daddy *gasp* you can can assistance but once you try to live in a traditional family setting you cant get anything.

And this is another reason why the "traditional family setting" is almost none existent anymore. People are "penalized" if they are married, one person working, the other staying home because day care is so freaking expensive and also a bit scary. However, if you have multiple baby-daddies, you can get day care assistance, food stamps, housing help, utility assistance, medical assistance, etc. Then the states will go after the baby-daddies for child support, but then find out that the baby-daddy has many kids, no "trackable" income, yet they drive around in the nicest rides (usually without insurance and a valid driver's license), wear the "finest" (yet tackiest) clothes, have the "hippest" sneakers, carry their Coach purses paying for their prepared meals with their bridge cards that they have trouble holding onto because of their long manicured nails. (Can you tell that I live in the city?) The other thing that annoys the crap right out of me is that there are a few "fish" markets in town where you can go in and use your bridge card and they will "prepare" your meal. I always joke when I see them and say "Oh baby-daddy, let's go on a date. My treat at the fish market".

 

[Julie08]

All that is so true, I could boot my husband (yes father of my child) out of the house and move a new flavour in every weekend and get more from the government that I can make fulltime minium wage. I know people I work with who do just and and get more in benefits then I make working, AND I make at least double the current minimum wage, so how do 2 honest hardworking people make minimum wage and support a family? I think the simple answer is that they dont.

 

[thechickenchick]

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It's Canadas problem too. As long as you are not married or heaven forbid living with the baby Daddy *gasp* you can can assistance but once you try to live in a traditional family setting you cant get anything.

And this is another reason why the "traditional family setting" is almost none existent anymore. People are "penalized" if they are married, one person working, the other staying home because day care is so freaking expensive and also a bit scary. However, if you have multiple baby-daddies, you can get day care assistance, food stamps, housing help, utility assistance, medical assistance, etc. Then the states will go after the baby-daddies for child support, but then find out that the baby-daddy has many kids, no "trackable" income, yet they drive around in the nicest rides (usually without insurance and a valid driver's license), wear the "finest" (yet tackiest) clothes, have the "hippest" sneakers, carry their Coach purses paying for their prepared meals with their bridge cards that they have trouble holding onto because of their long manicured nails. (Can you tell that I live in the city?) The other thing that annoys the crap right out of me is that there are a few "fish" markets in town where you can go in and use your bridge card and they will "prepare" your meal. I always joke when I see them and say "Oh baby-daddy, let's go on a date. My treat at the fish market".

OH!! You just explained my sister!! 4 boys 3 different dads, no job, ever, always has $ to spend!!

Makes me so angry! She said to me once "you are just jealous" Darn right I was jealous. My DH (x now) both worked full time and lived modestly and still had a hard time making it.

I wanted to start a family and he didn't because of $. She had 4, that of course the state paid for her medical bills, I couldn't afford to have 1.

She felt(still does) that this assistance is owed to her, "that's what its there for". I told her "no it isn't. Assistance is not meant to be a way of life, it is supposed to help you get on with your life! " Well we don't speak now, been about 5 years. She is 36 now and I am sure she will always live like that.

 

[PattiXmas]

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At the risk of being "scolded", I am going to go ahead and post more of my thoughts on this response

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The government WANTS to keep and increase the recipients of assistance because it will keep a vote for them. If you had two people to choose from one that was going to promise you everything under the sun at no cost to you or one that was going to say you have to start standing on your own two feet and take care of the children you chose to create. Which person would you vote for? Everyone wants "free" stuff, but in doing so, you are giving up your freedom and putting the government in absolute control. You will have to live your life according to how they dictate to you. Is this really what people want? Socialism is a nice thought, but that is all it is. People need to start supporting themselves and take control of their lives back.

 

[Julie08]

Amen sister. My husbands family is littered with such characters. His one brother is on disabilty (which is totally okay) except Im not exactly sure how he got disabled from spending his life on welfare. I guess maybe he has a hard time standing in line at the bank
*pushes soap box back in closet*

 

[JennsPeeps]

I thought there's a lifetime limit on welfare & food stamps of 5 years?

 

[PattiXmas]

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I believe that people have found a way to work around this by having another baby. Also, it depends on each state.

 

[thechickenchick]

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If not there should be. I think as long as you have children in the home you can get some kind of assistance. My sister had a BF living with her for a while (years ago). She didn't report his income and someone turned her in. She was ordered to pay some $ back and could not apply for FS again for a certian # of years. She got a lawyer(for free of course) to fight it. She blamed it on the BF and ended up never having to pay the $ back and got her assistance back. She also gets free phone service because she has children on medicaid in the home!

My DH works full time plus. He works 16 hour days, works his behind off to support my son and I. My son was in an accident, the bills are horrendous and after 2 years are still rolling in. Check ups, physical therapy, meds..... I quit my job to be with my son, he was in a wheel chair and needed a lot of adaptive equipment when he first came home. We honestly needed financial help. We were told we made to much $. We were worth to much because we had 2 cars and a home. So in essence we were punished for being hard working responsible citizens. We had to turn to credit cards to buy medicine and pay for trips to the out of town specialist. Is there help for us, NO!

However my DH x had her daughter injured in a similar accident 2 months later. The state paid all of her medical bills because they had no insurance and owned nothing.

 

[PattiXmas]

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If not there should be. I think as long as you have children in the home you can get some kind of assistance. My sister had a BF living with her for a while (years ago). She didn't report his income and someone turned her in. She was ordered to pay some $ back and could not apply for FS again for a certian # of years. She got a lawyer(for free of course) to fight it. She blamed it on the BF and ended up never having to pay the $ back and got her assistance back. She also gets free phone service because she has children on medicaid in the home!

My DH works full time plus. He works 16 hour days, works his behind off to support my son and I. My son was in an accident, the bills are horrendous and after 2 years are still rolling in. Check ups, physical therapy, meds..... I quit my job to be with my son, he was in a wheel chair and needed a lot of adaptive equipment when he first came home. We honestly needed financial help. We were told we made to much $. We were worth to much because we had 2 cars and a home. So in essence we were punished for being hard working responsible citizens. We had to turn to credit cards to buy medicine and pay for trips to the out of town specialist. Is there help for us, NO!

However my DH x had her daughter injured in a similar accident 2 months later. The state paid all of her medical bills because they had no insurance and owned nothing.

It's disgusting how hard working people get the shaft. We essentially are carrying the burden of all the ones that choose the easy life while the government continues to take our hard earned money, penalize us and give to those who can't (or won't) fend for themselves.