Free cell phones a civil right????

[SierraView]

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1. Yeah, because that's what all of our problems are, people sitting on their butts and collecting free paychecks, housing, food and cell phones.

2. I'm glad you've appointed yourself the expert on who is and is not worthy.

3. I'm glad that the rest of the country is evolving and the Tea Party/BYC Party will soon be extinct.

Thank you! Noone has called me an expert before!

(even though i always knew i was one..)

Thanks again!

*after reading several of your posts, it seems that you also are an expert!

Very nice to meet a fellow expert!*

Redhen you crack me up

 

[mikensara]

gonna sound off. I have a child who is pdd (best and simple terms i can give you autism spectrum disorder) my husbands workplace offers crap plans for insurance. we get ssi disability for our son its not alot since its based off our income but since he gets the ssi hes eligable for medicaid which is the only way i can afford his medications. Its easily at least 400$ monthly if we had to pay out of pocket until the deductible is met. we however do not get or want to receive food stamps, cell phones etc.
I can easily see why someone may think those who outward do not look like they are disabled but do not work are lazy collecting a free paycheck, free food, etc.... my son has an average iq he is socially awkward and has difficulty getting along with peers this is something hes going to have to learn to adjust to and find ways to cope if hes ever going to enter the workforce and be able to support himself.

 

[Avalon1984]

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I am so sorry to hear about your sons troubles. It is unfortunately cases like yours that get mixed in with cases of people blatantly abusing the system. An ex friend of mine is on disability, gets social security, medicare, you name it. She has a 15acre farm, large barn with indoor arena and a growing population of big horses (I think we are up to 16 now but she continues to impregnate her mares so God knows), she drives a big truck that she makes $600 payments on per month and has the nerve to drive to the food bank with it to get free food. She bragged before filing bankruptcy that she’d run to all stores she had an instore cc for and charge it to the limit, then file bankruptcy so that she could keep all the stuff she bought. She has a terrible attitude on life. She works on her farm all day but is too disabled to go and sit in an office and make a living- or even just to get rid of some of her horses. She constantly complains about not having money but she adds horses like other people chickens. She is the prime example of what some people here were talking about. I ended up cutting all ties with her since I was so ashamed of how she abused the system.

I sincerely hope that you will be able to receive all teh help you need to raise your son and help him adjust to interacting with other people. Good luck to you!

 

[country lady]

Mikensara, I agree with Avalon. Sorry you are having a tough time--sometimes good people have bad things happen to them. I'm certainly not talking about real need and that was the intent of welfare. The news just said, how timely, that cell phones for the poor cost $4 billion a year. What I hear on TV is that cell phones are free with up to 250 minutes monthly. That many minutes can't be emergency calls.

So many of us have become cynical because of what we see daily around us. You hang in there! I'm sending good vibes.

 

[saddina]

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They're not, they're calls form the kids school (you need to give a phone number when enrolling), calls from case workers (a huge issue previously would be that people would stay with family members a few months at a time and move around, so they would miss a form to fill out, and then they'd have to restart the whole process over), to make doctor's appointments, to take calls for interviews, you know to do all the things that they're required to do. Ever try to find a payphone anymore? they're mostly gone now (last place I saw one was disneyland).

 

[TrystInn]

I want to remind folks that many of our enlisted military families are on welfare programs because the pay is so poor. Some of my fellow Navy wives qualify for WIC, these types of phones, etc. And given that so many military families have special needs children, though scientists are still trying to find out why we have more than the civilian population, the need is very great in our military community.

Please do NOT stereotype folks on social welfare programs, you are defaming the families of our soldiers abroad. There will always be people who work the system to their advantage. We all know these folks, I just ended a ten year friendship with someone because her daughter is milking the disability system by faking a severe mental illness. My friend just shrugs it off because of course, she doesn't want her lying, manipulative daughter living with her mother and stepfather so they are relieved that the daughter is living off our tax dollars.

And while I don't believe cell phones are a civil right, I do believe that helping our nation's poor families are a moral obligation. And while I'm Jewish, I do consider it the "christian" thing to do.

 

[Avalon1984]

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I agree with your TrystInn, I apologize if my post came off the wrong way. The media in this country has a way to stereotype information and twist it the way they'd like for it to be presented. To me this is almost propaganda and I grew up in East Germany. After the wall came down our school system took a good stab at teaching us critical thinking so that we would always question "facts" and such released by the media and learn from WWII. I wish people here would be questioning the media more often as well since it si very biased at times.

 

[PaulaSB12]

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Where is the chocolate?

 

[stargazingmommy]

We easily could have burned through 250 mins. Of emergency calls regarding my daughter at one point. I was getting calls daily from the school, her therapist, and her psychiatrist. And the police on a few occasions. She is schizophrenic and PDD.
My kids are both on Medicaid also, despite me having decent income. Once upon a time, before insurance reform, there was a 6 month wait to cover pre existing conditions. Given my daughters conditions, her being unmedicated would have been very.very.very bad(already has a civil commitment to her name ).
So, could have added her to mine and received no treatment, keep her on her dads that had no coverage for mental health, or drop one day a week at work to put me under the income limit for the children's health insurance plan. They were accepted and I had a copay and monthly premium. 6 months later discovered that because of her commitment and social services involvement she actually qualified for straight Medicaid.
Sometimes there are situations you aren't aware of. That tattooed mom with a cell may have just stepped out of an abusive relationship, or just lost a good paying job because of the economy.

You never know a persons situation until you talk to Thomas.
you would never know the severity of my daughters disabilities just by looking at her(at least when shes on her Meds)

 

[mikensara]

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Its truly amazing when you can find the right combination of meds that work.