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Free cell phones a civil right????
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Do you know for a fact that they are on government assistance and got a free cell phone or are you just assuming these things because they are unmarried with children and have tattoos?
You figured out the actual reason the phones are provided. Some parts of society actually care about the children after they are born. It is kind of neat to just be able to pigeon hole entire sections of society. They did that with the Jews during WWII. I'm thinking that maybe some people think that should be the next step for people on welfare and food stamps. Sure seems that way sometimes.
Maybe they should pray for them. If prayer can get you out of bad times it should do the same for them.
Do you know for a fact that they are on government assistance and got a free cell phone or are you just assuming these things because they are unmarried with children and have tattoos?
You figured out the actual reason the phones are provided. Some parts of society actually care about the children after they are born. It is kind of neat to just be able to pigeon hole entire sections of society. They did that with the Jews during WWII. I'm thinking that maybe some people think that should be the next step for people on welfare and food stamps. Sure seems that way sometimes.
Maybe they should pray for them. If prayer can get you out of bad times it should do the same for them.
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Do you know for a fact that they are on government assistance and got a free cell phone or are you just assuming these things because they are unmarried with children and have tattoos?
They may well have been on some kind of assistance, but that doesn't mean they got free cell phones. There are plenty of cell phones that are cheap and useful. The one I have cost all of $20 to get and maybe $40 every 3-4 months in minutes. You could work a part time job and afford a simple pay-as-you-go phone.
Being a tattooed single mom does not immediately put you on a list of needing handouts. PLENTY of single mothers have tattoos as well as decent jobs they support themselves and their children with. To assume someone must be on government assistance, to make a judgement like that, simply based on their appearance is incredibly harsh. You don't know when they got their tattoos, you don't know their employment, you don't know their relationship status, all you have is their appearance and a bias. For all you know, she got tattoos before the child, was planning to get married or was married when the kid came and later broke up with the father over irresolvable issues. He could have been a druggie, an abuser, or had spending issues. On a more tragic side, he could have died in an accident or as a soldier overseas.
The point is, unless you know the person directly, you don't know them, their actions, or their situation, and you have no right to judge them.
As an FYI, you can have a great full time job, work hard all your life as a farmer, volunteer as a firefighter and still end up able to get State and Federal handouts. I know this because my family has qualified for assistance for a decade, at least, and not once have we felt that we were hard up for food or care.
Married couples can also qualify for WIC, many soldiers as well as low income families use the program, so it isn't JUST single moms.
Do you know for a fact that they are on government assistance and got a free cell phone or are you just assuming these things because they are unmarried with children and have tattoos?
They may well have been on some kind of assistance, but that doesn't mean they got free cell phones. There are plenty of cell phones that are cheap and useful. The one I have cost all of $20 to get and maybe $40 every 3-4 months in minutes. You could work a part time job and afford a simple pay-as-you-go phone.
Being a tattooed single mom does not immediately put you on a list of needing handouts. PLENTY of single mothers have tattoos as well as decent jobs they support themselves and their children with. To assume someone must be on government assistance, to make a judgement like that, simply based on their appearance is incredibly harsh. You don't know when they got their tattoos, you don't know their employment, you don't know their relationship status, all you have is their appearance and a bias. For all you know, she got tattoos before the child, was planning to get married or was married when the kid came and later broke up with the father over irresolvable issues. He could have been a druggie, an abuser, or had spending issues. On a more tragic side, he could have died in an accident or as a soldier overseas.
The point is, unless you know the person directly, you don't know them, their actions, or their situation, and you have no right to judge them.
As an FYI, you can have a great full time job, work hard all your life as a farmer, volunteer as a firefighter and still end up able to get State and Federal handouts. I know this because my family has qualified for assistance for a decade, at least, and not once have we felt that we were hard up for food or care.
Married couples can also qualify for WIC, many soldiers as well as low income families use the program, so it isn't JUST single moms.
Gosh, call me naive but just how do the non-government handouts people make it? The trend is to convert all things to a right and owe them to folks. That just seems wrong.
I think I would give a phone to a kid before an adult anyways and teach him responsibility to boot, tattoos or no tattoos.
Ferret, I think what angers people about handouts are the abusers and those that see it as perpetual means. They act like wildlife that are fed and continue to eat to their own destruction. I really see no difference. The truly needy are not as abundant and can get help.
I think I would give a phone to a kid before an adult anyways and teach him responsibility to boot, tattoos or no tattoos.
Ferret, I think what angers people about handouts are the abusers and those that see it as perpetual means. They act like wildlife that are fed and continue to eat to their own destruction. I really see no difference. The truly needy are not as abundant and can get help.
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No I think government is the distributor. I pay my taxes sometimes willingly sometimes not, so one could say I am the government and if I pay taxes with great joy then I suppose it would be me doing the handout but somehow I really don't think it is the same when someone else decides who I am charitable to. I think there are boxes on your tax forms to check to give all the funds you want and I am sure there is room for more boxes to check. If the ones in charge can show responsibility then maybe I would feel better about giving. In light of current events in our government I find it difficult for any intelligent person to defend any yhing government right now, the same goes for the politicians..
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This thread is very disturbing.
We are living on unemployment and scraping to get by, our cell phone bill is right under the amount we pay for food a month for 4 people. We don't have anything fancy 4 phones, my husband, me and 2 daughters. I pay $185. mo. We don't have a land line that's just another expense. We have always worked hard for what we have. If we cant afford it we don't have it.
I think this and a lot of other programs that the government spends money on are frivolous. I think this sort of thing should be in the hands of charities and churches.
We are living on unemployment and scraping to get by, our cell phone bill is right under the amount we pay for food a month for 4 people. We don't have anything fancy 4 phones, my husband, me and 2 daughters. I pay $185. mo. We don't have a land line that's just another expense. We have always worked hard for what we have. If we cant afford it we don't have it.
I think this and a lot of other programs that the government spends money on are frivolous. I think this sort of thing should be in the hands of charities and churches.
This subject of "undeserving poor" deadbeats is moot to me right now. One of the Navy Seals killed in Afghanistan was from the county where I was born. He was one of the best Americans. I think the sympathy on this thread is misplaced.
I want a cell phone!!!!
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compassion has no limits. one can have sympathy for more than one person at a time.
compassion has no limits. one can have sympathy for more than one person at a time.
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