Freedom of choice

[Dill]

I like freedom and all but I also like protection so...

 

[Marlinchaser]

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I would have to argue "Survival of the fittest." Let the weakest ones weed themselves out.

Youre right but you would be argueing your case in court. Once again it is the government stepping in to protect the stupid.

I think if you read the article you will find that the LLC is trying to skirt the law, like it or not, that is the law in the state they are residing. By thier own argument they are not truely selling product they are share holders (that pick up thier share earnings in the form of raw milk and yogurt). If I own stock in Walmart am I allowed to just go pick up a big screen TV and claim it as my dividend for the month?? Again like I have stated on here many times, and told to not visit some threads. If you break the law whether you think it is a fair law or not you are breaking the law, be it RAISING CHICKENS IN THE CITY, or "shareing raw dairy products", The law was put in place for a reason, whether you agree with that reason YOUR elected official, or in some case Home Owners Association put those in place, and just because its not fair(whoever told you life was gonna be fair lied) your thinking that you should be above the law is WRONG, get the laws changed or face the consequences.. These people are breaking the law they deserve what they get if it is to go broke or go to jail then so be it, they chose thier lawbreaking was, thus must face the consequences. In the word of Berretta Dont do the crime if you cant pay the time.

 

[geareduplyn]

Marlinchaser, I have to agree. " A rule is a rule as any fool should see" From the results of November 4th, I have to conclude that the bulk of the population prefers that government take care of us.

 

[kinnip]

I think the point of the court case is to determine whether a law should be inacted or altered to make this illegal. Herdshares are different than stock shares. Whe you own stock shares you own a share of the companies monetary assets. When you own herdshares you own a share of the product. What NY Ag is trying to do is to get one more aspect of agricultural production under the control of regulatory agencies. It will not stop with here.
One thing that's gotten lost in this discussion is the fact that folks who take the time and expend the resources to become a part of a herdshare program know what they're buying. It'd not as if these folks are putting raw milk on grocery store shelves.

 

[Marlinchaser]

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Are they living in NY state ???? YES
Does the Dairy have a raw milk permit?? YES
Is it PROHIBITED according to the LAWS of NY STATE??? YES

The point is it is the LAW they are breaking the LAW, just because I know how to use DYNAMITE that doesnt mean I should be allowed to obtain it, and you cant. Because when you blow your hand off your gonna be the first one in line to get disability because you lost the use of your hand, and then you will be calling a lawyer because the ACME dynamite co didnt check your credentials before selling you the product.

If you dont like the laws get them changed legally or you are illegal, and breaking the law. So the farmers should suck it up and play within the rules that are in place or face the consequences.

 

[the1much]

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I would have to argue "Survival of the fittest." Let the weakest ones weed themselves out.

i TOTALLY agree ,, but there seems to be MORE idiots voting against the "non-idiots"

letting all the idiots kill themselves would make the human race a stronger "herd"

,, jus like my brain cells,,, every night i kill off the week ones,, that way i have a "stronger herd" in the mornin

 

[Mojo Chick'n]

It is illegal to sell raw milk in many places. It is illegal where I live, but I can buy it anyway - because the people who sell it say it is "for animal consumption only".

Are they breaking the law? Technically - no, because it is not illegal to serve raw milk to pigs or other livestock.

If those persons who purchase their "animal food" from the sellers of this raw milk choose to consume it themselves, then it is on the other person's head.

The govt will probably not go so far as to inspect every person's home to make sure they are only feeding the raw milk to their animal stock.

While I agree that the law is silly, and the Govt. is way too involved in a LOT of aspects of our lives (not just our food), I think the problem these folks have is that they are very open about what they plan to do with the milk. They basically state that they intend to break the law.

There are a lot of folks out there selling raw milk and raw milk products to friends and neighbors who aren't being so blatant about it, who get away with it every single day.

IMO if you're going to break the law, just DO IT and don't try to make it look legit. That raises a lot more attention than just quietly dealing with a few known folks who you can trust.

meri

 

[geareduplyn]

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I would have to argue "Survival of the fittest." Let the weakest ones weed themselves out.

i TOTALLY agree ,, but there seems to be MORE idiots voting against the "non-idiots"

letting all the idiots kill themselves would make the human race a stronger "herd"

,, jus like my brain cells,,, every night i kill off the week ones,, that way i have a "stronger herd" in the mornin

Jim, it will never happen. The idiots are in charge.

 

[Marlinchaser]

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I agree with you there, my point is dont cry fowl when you get caught, claiming you know better than the government(whether you do or dont is not the point) so you should be allowed to break the law is wrong.

 

[the1much]

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i TOTALLY agree ,, but there seems to be MORE idiots voting against the "non-idiots"

letting all the idiots kill themselves would make the human race a stronger "herd"

,, jus like my brain cells,,, every night i kill off the week ones,, that way i have a "stronger herd" in the mornin

Jim, it will never happen. The idiots are in charge.

awww man,,, now ya taking the ONLY hope i have for the future

hehe