Friesian/Paint Colt-Added more pics, pg 3

[Peaches Lee]

He will stay black and white. He will probably have more feathering on his legs and it looks like he has pretty good bone. Friesians are so inbred that purebreds can have a range of genetic defects, so you are better off getting a cross bred that will be healthier. This colt would make a nice lower level prospect for what you would want to do with it. Is the stallion trained at all? I would love to see a video of the stallion and his bloodlines. Good luck.

 

[1muttsfan]

The mare's conformation is ok, she has a nice head, her neck ties into her shoulder a little low and her shoulder angle is a little straight. She is long in the back, which makes it harder for her to gather herself (think collected work), and her hind leg angle is a little straight, although she has a nicely angled croup and a good hip. She would have a hard time with collected work herself, if he gets these traits from her collection would be more difficult for him. He could still make a nice riding and driving horse. It really depends on how his conformation develops.

 

[naturalfeddogs]

Beautiful, but the dams legs are some of the straightest I've seen, all the way through the pasterns, which can lead to unsoundness problems in the future. I can't really tell about that with the angle of the baby in the pictures. That issue with the mare really stands out to me.

 

[chickbea]

Was this an intentional mating or an ooops? Is there some sort of proof other than their word that these are indeed the parents? The pics and your description ("very flexible on price") sound a bit like a byb to me...
Something else that concerns me: by 11 months old I would have liked to have seen someone do some significant halter and ground work with the colt. It's a bit of an issue for me that they can't get a nice conformation pic of him standing quietly. Again, this makes me think byb.
However, that doesn't mean he wouldn't work out well for you. You may be able to get him at a very good price, but I would be prepared to start from square one with him.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

With any animal I buy my personal concerns are always 1. Temperament, 2. Health, and 3. If I have some sort of connection/interest/spark/I-want-*this*-one-feeling with the individual animal. If you are the same way, what I would do is take a vet or knowledgable horse person along with you and check out both parents (Super nice to have them both on site!). Spend time with them and the colt. See if you can talk to anyone who owned the parents of the parents (ie. maybe email the place the male was imported from). Then, I'd go from there. That's just me though.

 

[ChickenWisperer]

I don't the stallion is anything amazing, to be honest and the mare seems to have conformation faults... her legs are awfully straight, something you see coming from the people too concerned about breeding muscle mass or better color to the horse to care about the conformation in my experience with my area. Not sure where you're located but it's rare to see someone with a friesian stallion cross to a low quality paint mare.

I would be more concerned with these horses temperament than anything... to me that horse is not a sport horse, but just another cross, regardless of the fact his sire is a friesian of questionable quality. Is the sire tested or approved?

This is simply my thoughts on the subject, IMHO. He is beautiful, though.

 

[Oregon Blues]

I think the colt looks quite nice. I can't see his legs and pasterns, so I'd want to see him coming and going to watch his movement.

The stallion looks good. He's got a really outstanding lay back of shoulder and a very handsome neck. I don't think he is second rate, at all.

The mare is a typical paint halter horse with the usual too small feet and too straight pasterns. She's pretty, though, and maybe the stallion improved the pasterns and feet. She looks like she might have some Impressive breeding and if she does, make sure she is screened hypp/nn

If the price is right, and he has a nice temperament, moves well, and passes the vet check. go for it.

 

[babyblue2]

The US might have too many horses, but Israel doesn't, all horses are expensive & there are less than 100 Frisians in the country. All imported stallion owners keep a pure mare or two & stud their stallions out to the locals, that's how it works here.

Like Dani says, she lives in Israel, not the US and certainly not Europe. Good horses are HARD to find and EXPENSIVE, importing is extremely difficult and expensive at best. Not to offend you Dani, but the average quality of horses in Israel is about the same as meat market horses in most of the US right now. If a horse does its job and does not fall lame or dead its considered good there.


Now from what I can see of this colt his head neck and hip are not bad. I would certainly want to see him in person and take an especially close look at his legs. But yes for an Israel bred horse he is not bad looking at all.

Also I think he may turn out very dark bay, not black, very dark bay is my fav color.

 

[danischi24]

I went to see him. What a sweety

The photos online are old & he now leads, ties & does feet like a champ. The breeder has two imported Friesian stallions, a few pureblood colts from their mares & a hodgepodge of quality mares of different breeds & crosses as riding horses. His mother was one of those but they sold her. His father was taken out the stable in this pic & hauled onto the neighborhood road with screaming kids & lawn mowers etc. Didn't bat an eyelid. They pushed him back for this photo so it's not great. He was also led around the arena at walk & trot with a rider who had never sat on a horse before. There were 4 mares & 3 stud colts running loose in there with him & he didn't even look at them. My colt came up to say hi & they peacefully sniffed noses for a few seconds & then his father turned his head & ignored him

The first thing I noticed in the photos of the dam is her straightness but the colt doesn't have it. I didn't take good or many pics

but I've got a few videos I'll post if anyone's interested. He actually has his front legs crossed in half the photos

He is straight & correct, though with that hind leg, I doubt he will be much of a jumper but I never thought he would be.



Bad front leg shot, he was shifting.













And 2 videos. The other colored colt in the videos is the same age (11 months) & 3 quarters Friesian.

 

[EweSheep]

He appears to be a very dark bay pinto. He is going to be handsome later on. He is not too fluid, some stiffness to his gait. His shoulder seems to be more upright therefore he is not going to move out too well for reaching gaits such as the spanish trot, or extended trot requried in dressage.

The black and white pinto stud colt next to him appears to be a better mover, he moves like a Fresian than a regular QH.

Out of the two, I would pick the black and white colt next to him. Even he may not be as flashy. The bay filly in there is cute and good mover as well.