From eggs to ducklings

[Miss Lydia]

 

[Knighstar679]

Great idea for turning! I’ve never used cartons, and I’ve read that some folks don’t like using the paper cartons, but I can’t remember the reasons. Maybe drawing moisture? Also do you have holes cut in the bottom of the cartons? I wonder about circulation. Just a thought.

And the eggs look good too. Funny that the one group looks a bit ahead. Maybe they will even out by the time hatch day comes. Do you move them around as far as where they sit in the incubator? Maybe you have some varying temperatures causing one set to develop quicker?

After increasing the angle that they are sitting the air sacs are starting to turn more oblong on many of them now. Is this going be a problem? Being as it just started I am hoping I can adjust and fix it.

 

[Knighstar679]

Please for give me I am going to do several post on my day 7 candling. I am only doing my Welsh Harlequin eggs though and one Cayuga. I am curious to get some input as to which ones to mark and clear. I am also concerned about the air sacs and wondering if hand turning them all would be best at this point based on what is being seen in these images?

This is the one Cayuga that I could tell showed growth. I did pull one clear from them today and it was infertile.

 

[Knighstar679]

These are my Maryland eggs they look like they are pretty strong going. I have shifted positions in the incubator to make sure every egg gets to experience their more prominate position more. Because these eggs spent more time at two locations in the incubator so I am rotating others in. I am not sure if i should pull 13 and 14. But given the others states I am leaning towards a yes.

 

[Knighstar679]

These are the eggs from Texas. They have a really weird thing going on with egg 6 & 7. It has veins but only one or two. I has those veins have spread in two days but I am not sure what to make of this. Thus my moving these eggs to another spot in the incubator.


This line does not go all the way around the egg. They also have no smell or anything like that. Are these just slow to develop little ducklings?

Because of 6&7 it makes me wary to cull 9 & 10 on this group today. But I think they have really large air cells so that concerns me on them.


So would the eggs be better off if I was to start hand turning them now. See if these little air cell issues even out. The steeper incline seems to have made them either steeper or larger I am not sure which unless they just lost that much moisture in a few days. I don't have a scale that sensitive to be able to tell. Advise and help appreciated in advance.

 

[WVduckchick]

Cayuga egg is not viable
MD 13 & 14 are not viable
TX 6 & 7 started developing but quit. A blood ring does not have to make a complete ring, but the blood vessel network collapsed. Those are gone.
TX 9 & 10 appear to have never developed.
All of the above can be tossed
The rest look great!

Except.... MD 2. I’d lay that one down if possible, with that clear gap on top, so the blood vessels will gravitate to the top and fill that area. It needs to overtake the whole egg, like the others.

Congrats though, you have several doing great!

 

[Knighstar679]

Cayuga egg is not viable
MD 13 & 14 are not viable
TX 6 & 7 started developing but quit. A blood ring does not have to make a complete ring, but the blood vessel network collapsed. Those are gone.
TX 9 & 10 appear to have never developed.
All of the above can be tossed
The rest look great!

Except.... MD 2. I’d lay that one down if possible, with that clear gap on top, so the blood vessels will gravitate to the top and fill that area. It needs to overtake the whole egg, like the others.

Congrats though, you have several doing great!

I was thinking about just laying everyone down at this point if it would help even things out. I have no issues turning by hand I just thought this might be effective to some degree. And it was but if it would give them a better chance to make it through lockdown to be hand turned while on their sides I will.

But i am super excited for what I have going! Makes me do the happy dance!

 

[Knighstar679]

Cayuga egg is not viable
MD 13 & 14 are not viable
TX 6 & 7 started developing but quit. A blood ring does not have to make a complete ring, but the blood vessel network collapsed. Those are gone.
TX 9 & 10 appear to have never developed.
All of the above can be tossed
The rest look great!

Except.... MD 2. I’d lay that one down if possible, with that clear gap on top, so the blood vessels will gravitate to the top and fill that area. It needs to overtake the whole egg, like the others.

Congrats though, you have several doing great!

@WVduckchick when you said lay MD2 down on its side with the clear gap on top. Am I going to avoid rotating that one for a little bit to give it a chance to do just that?

I have also opted to lay everyone on their sides and do hand turning starting tonight. It will mean I do fewer rotations daily down from the 9 I have been to 5 but i think that will be ok this late in the game now.

Of the MD ones i pulled which were 3, 6, 10,13, and 14. Only 13 had had grown a few days then stopped somewhere along the way to day three I am guessing the rest were just infertile.

I couldn't bring myself to pull the Texas ones yet. I am going to wait a few more days and re-candle. I will be watching for anything going bad though, daily. Likely multiple times a day because I am crazy like that.

 

[WVduckchick]

@WVduckchick when you said lay MD2 down on its side with the clear gap on top. Am I going to avoid rotating that one for a little bit to give it a chance to do just that?

I have also opted to lay everyone on their sides and do hand turning starting tonight. It will mean I do fewer rotations daily down from the 9 I have been to 5 but i think that will be ok this late in the game now.

Of the MD ones i pulled which were 3, 6, 10,13, and 14. Only 13 had had grown a few days then stopped somewhere along the way to day three I am guessing the rest were just infertile.

I couldn't bring myself to pull the Texas ones yet. I am going to wait a few more days and re-candle. I will be watching for anything going bad though, daily. Likely multiple times a day because I am crazy like that.

Sounds like a plan!

MD2’s CAM is slower developing, but it’s still early, so should be ok. Don’t stop turning it. When you turn, place your flashlight on it before you roll it. And try getting it to invade that area. Roll whichever way gets it to gravitate that way, if that makes sense. If you watch as you roll, and for a few seconds after, you can actually watch the network of blood vessels move toward the top. Pretty cool to see actually.

 

[Knighstar679]

Sounds like a plan!

MD2’s CAM is slower developing, but it’s still early, so should be ok. Don’t stop turning it. When you turn, place your flashlight on it before you roll it. And try getting it to invade that area. Roll whichever way gets it to gravitate that way, if that makes sense. If you watch as you roll, and for a few seconds after, you can actually watch the network of blood vessels move toward the top. Pretty cool to see actually.

OH COOL!