FunnyBunnies12(Missy) Duckling Thread!

[FunnyBunnies12]

Can I put the ducklings back into the incubator for a few hours to see if they will stimulate the eggs to start progressing before I intervene myself?

 

[FunnyBunnies12]

Ok, it is definitely in the air sac, I can see the pink bill, but it's not moving much, I heard it chirping 2hrs ago and it's been pretty quiet, I even put one of the ducklings momentarily in the hatchery to see if I could get a rocking or more chirping going on, but nothing and right now i'm in a bit of a panic because I feel like I need to intervene and not just pip it, but actually gentally and quickly take it out and if it's still alive put it in the hatchery to dry off. My gut feeling to do this is screaming at me, but I'm trying to find my stethoscop to be sure! I tried my ear, but I just couldn't tell completely, but didn't hear any chirping either. And frankly I'm scared to leave it go and see what it will do on it's own but end up dying if it hasn't already since the chirp wa a bit weak this morning, and scared to do something afraid I'll kill it, I'm afraid either way the out come isn't good.

 

[FunnyBunnies12]

DANG IT!! I knew I should have intervened when I heard the weak peeping this morning. I opened up 18, and after I did, good thing I didn't and that it fell a sleep and died. ANOTHER deformed baby, head and bill. This one was another blondie. Yolk obviously as I saw yesterday not absorbed. So nature is taking it's course. I'm going to open #16 with it most likely dead as well. This is why I'm in a panic when I hear chirping and no external pip, it is the babies in distress. This absolutely SUCKS!!!

But, at least it didn't start life off suffering.

I wish I could seriously say this was a good experience, it has been hasn't, it certainly has been a educational one. But the membrane shrunk wrapped around this one as well. I saw a tear where I think it tried but couldn't.

 

[FunnyBunnies12]

Ok, I was going to open 16 up, as I took it out, I heard it chirping like crazy and healthy and loud. Ok, should I go ahead an make that external pip? Seems like when I'm in question, and I hear chirping they end up dying hours later. I'll do the external pip raise the humidity and hope for the best! And if it isn't born soon by6pm or doesn't show zipping, I will take it, but part of me just want to hatch it complete. I'm scared now at this point of any more hatchlings because of the deformity.

 

[FunnyBunnies12]

Ok, how can it go from chirping and 1 rock to complete silence and candled with led flashlight and not seeing movement. I don't believe this, I'm intervening! I can't believe this is happening! Well, I guess in a way I can, I thought the older the eggs the better quality/chance it had. I'm not going to wait any more to pip it, I'm pipping it if not taking it if I don't see any movement in the egg. I don't pull the membrane off unless there is absolutely no movement or noise. Not only is this a learnin experience for me, but I'm sure for many of the newbies like me on what to do and not to do and most importantly deformities and if you have more then 1 duckling with deformities, do not let momma incubate, pull the eggs from that momma. I'm just so very saddened by this, I'm happy I have 2 beautiful healthy babies now, but still it's saddening to see the deformities and these little tikes making it to full development and dying at lock down/hatching process. So very sad, very disheartening. Makes these 2 that much more special.

 

[katharinad]

Shoot for the later day for the outside eggs to transfer to the hatcher, and go early if you see an external pip.

Manual pipping is best done with a dull tool like a small screw driver. Once the shell if off, use a tooth pick and carefully pucture the membrane. That will get the air flowing and the rest you just have to wait and see.

 

[katharinad]

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No, they are way to active now. Plus they have come down in temperature and can no longer handle the high heat and humidity. They can get sick from it now.

 

[katharinad]

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I go message by message. Do not ever take it out of the shell. The egg yolk and umbilical cord blood is not absorbed at this point and you will kill it or make it bleed severely.

 

[katharinad]

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You must puncture the membrane if you pip the shell, or there would have been no point in doing this whatsoever. It seems that the deformities prevent them from piping in the first place, so I would not be surprised if you have another one like that. I know you are trying to help, but I question if it really matters. I almost never intervene on non piping eggs, because there is usually something wrong with them. I do help after they piped and and cannot zip, after waiting 2 days from the external pip. Or when I can tell they are stuck in one place, which is usually a sign of shrink wrapping. Usually I don't have to do anything at all.

In your case you are fighting more then just normal hatching. Genetics can be a big problem, and now we know you have it for sure. So you should decide if all that helping is even useful, because you may prolong a deformed duckling's life that isn't meant to be. What do you do if a deformed one pulls through. It may not be able to eat and drink right, walk right, or function right at all. So perhaps you should focus on the ones that pip by themselves and let the others go into a painfree never ending sleep and let them quietly pass away. It's a very humane way.

I'm sorry to see all this trying on your end. You are driving youself nuts and hope you can fix it. There is just nothing you can do, but to except what it going on and let nature take care its place.

 

[FunnyBunnies12]

That is one things that is hard for someone with ADHD, is the impulsititivey to do, or not do things. But now that I am lived and now learned through this and seeing this, and getting your point of view on it all. I'm leaving well enough alone. The thing is, I've opened them up when there is no more noise, movement, or sound, and the egg gets cooler faster then before. Then I know, but when I do pip the shell, I do open the membrane and peep in there for any movement/sound, I'll make duck noises, and such for any stimulation, but when I feel it cooling quickly in my hand and nothing happens that I mentioned, I finish the process and open the egg up. I'm just so very thankful that I have these 2 precious babies with me, and I think I'm keeping the name precious for the female, because with all that has gone on, she to me is more precious then ever! But her middle name will be Katharine