Gape work? I can see food in mouth/throat

[Wyorp Rock]

I’ve has a good look and I cant tell. It’s on her tongue and down her throat. It smells, a bit came off when I was checking and it looks like food. I’ve added a photo of the bit that came off too. Sorry, the photos aren’t the best!

Sometimes there is bread leftover from sandwiches in the scraps they get. They also get normal layer crumble.

Well if you think that is feed, then take a q-tip and scrape it out.
If it's canker then the removal of the gunk will likely bleed a bit.

I would continue with the Coconut oil and follow the instructions that @azygous gave you in POST#2

 

[azygous]

I'm in agreement with @Wyorp Rock that this could be canker. Canker is caused by a little parasite called a protozoa. Coconut oil can't hurt and it could help by softening the gunk so you can scrape it out. If it is canker, you will know it if you see a little blood when you scrape it off her tongue.

If the coconut oil won't clear it up completely, you will need to give her metronidazole. You can get it here. https://www.revivalanimal.com/product/fish-zole?sku=22154-698

 

[MissChick@dee]

I’m curious. If it’s a canker (poor baby) other than scraping it with a q-tip is there anything to apply topically/orally for cankers?

ETA: just read a bit is it true that the parasites can be transmitted in the drinking water. What to do then?

 

[azygous]

Actually, thyme extract can be as effective against trichinosis as metronidazole. Yes, chickens get it from drinking water where wild birds carrying this protozoa drink, and it can be passed to other chickens in this manner. However, chickens can carry the parasite and, as long as their immune system is strong, not develop the symptoms.

 

[MissChick@dee]

Hey...thanks!

 

[casportpony]

I’m curious. If it’s a canker (poor baby) other than scraping it with a q-tip is there anything to apply topically/orally for cankers?

ETA: just read a bit is it true that the parasites can be transmitted in the drinking water. What to do then?

Canker (trichomoniasis) is contagious and once infected I believe they remain carriers for life. It is sometimes treatable with something like metronidazole, dimetridazole, or rodondizole. I say sometimes because it's a common disease of pigeons (I think they say 80% of pigeons carry it) and I have treated two pigeons for it. One was treated and recovered, but with the second one, I couldn't get it under control, so I euthanized him. Each time I treated it seemed like it was getting better, but eventually the plaque came back. I tried for months, but nothing seemed to work.

Good news, bad news...

Good news is that according to an avian pathologist at the UC Davis CAHFS lab in Tulare, canker is rare in chickens. He said that in the last ten years he hadn't seen any cases.

Bad news is that a few other things can look a lot like canker. Things that can look like canker are:

• bacterial infection
• wet pox
• cancer

IMO, the bird pictured does not have canker, and I say this because it does not look like the canker the my pigeons had.

I also say this because I have seen these "plaques" in a few of mine, and like many, I assumed canker. Some occurred during an outbreak of fowl pox, so those I removed the plaque and the recovered.

Three I tried everything with, metronidazole, Baytril, Clavamox, but each time I removed the plaque, it was back in a day or two.

The last one I tried to treat finally succumbed because the plaque grew so big that it covered the entrance to his trachea. After he died I did a necropsy and under that plaque I found a tumor.

 

[casportpony]

Actually, thyme extract can be as effective against trichinosis as miconazole. Yes, chickens get it from drinking water where wild birds carrying this protozoa drink, and it can be passed to other chickens in this manner. However, chickens can carry the parasite and, as long as their immune system is strong, not develop the symptoms.

I'm confused... Aren't we talking about trichomoniasis? If so, I think vaginal trichomoniasis can be treated with metronidazole and *miconazole*, but not just miconazole.

 

[azygous]

No, @casportpony I'm the one confusing the two meds. Aging brain cells.

 

[casportpony]

No, @casportpony I'm the one confusing the two meds. Aging brain cells.

I know that feeling all to well!

 

[MissChick@dee]

Thank you both so much. If the OP reads these replies She’ll of learned as much as I did.
I haven’t had anything like cankers in my birds.
What a awful condition.
Bleek prognosis. I’m thinking I more likely than not, would euthanize.
I’m seriously thinking about changing to a nippled watering system. The
Sparrows pooping in my waterers is frustrating for sure. Now it’s become scary.

Thanks again~ I appreciate both y’all taking the time to respond.