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Gaping, shaking head, but not respiratory or crop issues?

Farmgirl1878

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Okay, it started about eight weeks ago with Lily, my 2 year old BLRW. She was gaping when she would lie down in the sand and when she was on the roost. She was not coughing, sneezing, or rattling, but she did have thin mucus that would gather on her wattles and around her mouth. No gape worms, no other worms, no change in chow, and she ate and drank her usual amounts. No poop changes either. No sour smell, no apparent crop issues. Other than being tired from lack of a good night’s sleep, her behavior was normal. After about a month, she seemed much better. We assumed it was something she ate - perhaps the black slime mold on the yard. Then, a few days ago, I noticed her gaping a bit when she was lying on the sand.

Now my 3 year old blue Cochin, Blue, is starting to gape and shake her head. She’s not allowing me to feel her crop, but no gape worms that I can see and no mucus, rattles, or sneezing. Last summer and this, she’s had swollen eyes (like she has “allergy eyes”) and she easily turns red in the face, but yesterday evening, her face was deep red to almost purple while she was gaping. She’s really laid back all the time anyway, but no change in behavior - she still follows me around outside and runs for treats.

The black slime mold is now fenced off and Blue didn’t go into that area before anyway. So far, none of the other birds are gaping, but several of the 4 month old Brahmas have been sneezing once or twice that I’ve seen.

The big girls were wormed with Ivermectin just over four months ago (right before the chicks arrived). We are all sand with a covered run, so everything stays mostly dry. However, we do live in the bottom of a creek valley, so it’s almost a tropical rain forest environment with lots of humidity, loads of bugs, mold, mildew, and pollen, and lots of wildlife. Any ideas for what might be happening and how to treat it? I’m flummoxed…

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Lily was gaping on the roost last night and this morning and Blue was shaking her head and gaping a couple of times before leaving the coop. Both girls had empty crops and were eating and drinking normally when they came out into the run. WTH is going on??
 
That's exactly how 2 of my hens were breathing before they died.

I sent 1 body into the lab and found 0 bacterial/ viral/ intestinal parasites. .... But idk if our lab even checks for gapeworm?

Ultimate cause of death: calcium deficiency.
The technician/ Dr called to let me know she lacked both soluble and insoluble grit in her crop.


So, with no expertise on the manor: make sure they have both kinds of grit, and I treated mine with valbazen.
The gaping has slowly stopped and no more unexplained deaths since
 
That's exactly how 2 of my hens were breathing before they died.

I sent 1 body into the lab and found 0 bacterial/ viral/ intestinal parasites. .... But idk if our lab even checks for gapeworm?

Ultimate cause of death: calcium deficiency.
The technician/ Dr called to let me know she lacked both soluble and insoluble grit in her crop.


So, with no expertise on the manor: make sure they have both kinds of grit, and I treated mine with valbazen.
The gaping has slowly stopped and no more unexplained deaths since
Hmmm, mine have free access to oyster shells and are on sand. Plus they free range for about three hours a day. I’ve seen Lily eating oyster shells and foraging in the grass and dirt, so doubt that’s it. Her gaping is definitely positional tho. She only does it when she’s on the roost or resting on her chest in the sand. I still can’t figure it out. They were all on Tylan for ten days and she hasn’t stopped…
 
Well, I think I’ve figured it out. Lily has some kind of a hard growth just below her larynx. It’s not something she swallowed, it’s not something she ate. Whatever it is, it’s grown since last Fall. She gapes now whenever she lies down and has lost weight. She still hangs with the rest of the girls and is chatty with me, but yesterday was tough for her. She’s no longer eating much and refused treats yesterday, so I’ve asked hubby to help me humanely euthanize her today.

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I was going to say you might want to check for canker. Do you notice any smell? If you can open their beak and look all over and down their throats for any gunky build up. This is passed around the flock through drinkers.
 
Well, I think I’ve figured it out. Lily has some kind of a hard growth just below her larynx. It’s not something she swallowed, it’s not something she ate. Whatever it is, it’s grown since last Fall. She gapes now whenever she lies down and has lost weight. She still hangs with the rest of the girls and is chatty with me, but yesterday was tough for her. She’s no longer eating much and refused treats yesterday, so I’ve asked hubby to help me humanely euthanize her today.

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Are you able to see it or feel it? If you're able to see it, have you tried to see if it will dislodge without harming or causing discomfort? I'm so sorry.
 

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