Gender? Breed?

[Naomishae]

This little angel is 11 to 12 weeks old. Been battling health issues since I got him. His name is Billiam. Facebook groups are saying it's a female and a BBW. Cal ranch sold it as a heritage. Is it really a meat bird?? He is being treated for zinc toxicity. This baby has the will to live. Ive always called him Billiam and my boy. But now I hope it's a female if it's a BBW for weight purposes.

He's always putting his head between his legs and then rotating his head. Then stepping on it while he walks. It's painful to watch but I hope the neurological issues are going to get better soon.

 

[R2elk]

This little angel is 11 to 12 weeks old. Been battling health issues since I got him. His name is Billiam. Facebook groups are saying it's a female and a BBW. Cal ranch sold it as a heritage. Is it really a meat bird?? He is being treated for zinc toxicity. This baby has the will to live. Ive always called him Billiam and my boy. But now I hope it's a female if it's a BBW for weight purposes.

He's always putting his head between his legs and then rotating his head. Then stepping on it while he walks. It's painful to watch but I hope the neurological issues are going to get better soon.

The breed is Turkey. All domestic turkeys are the breed Turkey. Hard to tell which variety it is from those images.

It is too young to sex from images.

I have no idea how you determined that it is suffering from zinc toxicity. I suspect the problems are due to genetics because of too closely related parents.

 

[Naomishae]

The breed is Turkey. All domestic turkeys are the breed Turkey. Hard to tell which variety it is from those images.

It is too young to sex from images.

I have no idea how you determined that it is suffering from zinc toxicity. I suspect the problems are due to genetics because of too closely related parents.

Lets just say I have spent more than 7 grand treating him to find the exact cause lol. A veterinarian did imaging twice without seeing a VERY visible peice of metal in his stomach. It wasn't until I requested to look myself. I was shocked they told me it was probably just a piece of grit. When I saw it I took him to an exotic vet and told them to do a full panel of everything. Including a heavy metal toxicity test. That came back with toxic levels of zinc. Which also created a good environment for too much bacteria growth in his stomach which was causing wry neck. On top of neurological issues. They overly focused on coccidia even though I had already treated him. When something ingests metal and it takes a little while to pass it through feces. The metal binds to blood and collects in the brain. So even if the metal is no longer present in imaging the only way to tell is a specialized testing center. The symptoms are pretty much the same as wry neck so it's impossible to diagnose unless you can afford the panels. My advice to anyone at this point is to use chat gpt and put in all symptoms and treatments that aren't working and see what it says. Ask the vet for blood and fecal results, upload them into AI and see what it says. It was able to identify the metal. I even did it for my goats urinary culture yesterday and it got it spot on lol. And then tell the vet to do the tests that you want them to do. Because here in AZ it seems like none of them are good at diagnostics in poultry.

 

[Naomishae]

Lets just say I have spent more than 7 grand treating him to find the exact cause lol. A veterinarian did imaging twice without seeing a VERY visible peice of metal in his stomach. It wasn't until I requested to look myself. I was shocked they told me it was probably just a piece of grit. When I saw it I took him to an exotic vet and told them to do a full panel of everything. Including a heavy metal toxicity test. That came back with toxic levels of zinc. Which also created a good environment for too much bacteria growth in his stomach which was causing wry neck. On top of neurological issues. They overly focused on coccidia even though I had already treated him. When something ingests metal and it takes a little while to pass it through feces. The metal binds to blood and collects in the brain. So even if the metal is no longer present in imaging the only way to tell is a specialized testing center. The symptoms are pretty much the same as wry neck so it's impossible to diagnose unless you can afford the panels. My advice to anyone at this point is to use chat gpt and put in all symptoms and treatments that aren't working and see what it says. Ask the vet for blood and fecal results, upload them into AI and see what it says. It was able to identify the metal. I even did it for my goats urinary culture yesterday and it got it spot on lol. And then tell the vet to do the tests that you want them to do. Because here in AZ it seems like none of them are good at diagnostics in poultry.