gender of this pigeon?!?!?!

[pigeonE15]

put it with the rest of the flock but nope no sighn of nothing just stands there and walks around and sometimes fights like my female pigeons but not sure. THANKS GUYS ALOT I APPRECIATE IT!!!!

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

The alone ones see someone or something as a mate, more than likely. It can be a person or another bird, even of the same sex. I have had my share of trios, same sex pairs. And even quads in my doves.

What about those that frequently post about totally alone females consistantly laying, two females laying four eggs when person only has had those two for years, or a true pair that the female lays constantly though eggs are infertile from sterile male??? those facts kinda blow some opinions out of the water..

 

[pigeonE15]

today the black one was folowing my pigeon( gender?) all around the yard but with a little cooing

 

[jak2002003]

What about those that frequently post about totally alone females consistantly laying, two females laying four eggs when person only has had those two for years, or a true pair that the female lays constantly though eggs are infertile from sterile male??? those facts kinda blow some opinions out of the water..

I have a female pair. They take in in turns to act as the male, mounting each other, cooing like males and feeding each other. They lay 4 eggs each time. Its very frustrating to me as I wanted them to breed as they are the only pair of that breed I can get hold of. But they seem happy. When I try to split them up or introduce males (always slowly and in different cages away from each other), it never works and I have had to give up and let them be together.

People who have lone females that lay eggs.....this is because the female has bonded to the human owner and sees the human as her mate and so will lay eggs and nest etc.

The true pair with infertile eggs.....this is simply as one of the bird is infertile. They are paired together and form strong pair bonds, so they will just keep trying.

What options are blown out of the water?

I have many birds, different species, and I am good at guessing the gender of the birds......but from one phone of a single pigeon it is not possible!!!! You need at least 2 birds to see a difference. Also some males are less 'manly' and some hens can be very 'male' in shape and actions.

I have a pair of old dutch capuchins and the male is smaller than the female, and the female is the boss of him.. she is very high ranking and top of the pecking order in my flock.

 

[Hokum Coco]

@ 2002003:
I have the exact same problem with 2 of my best white female homers. Fortunate for me the girls are how should we say some what "LOOSE NOW" and their four eggs have hatched and I have 2 pairs of pigeons raising 3 squabs each

They are excellent breeding stock and parents. The only down side is I can never count on their eggs being fertile.

The only REAL problem is I have no idea for sure who the father is plus my dominate male is full sister to one of the females.

On another note;
Something tells me your best guess at the gender of a bird is more often right than wrong 2002003 even from a photo.

When I guess the gender of a bird I do it with an imaginary standard and I know I am right more often than I am wrong.

Especially when I am dealing with my own flock and have their interaction to base my conclusion on.

However I have no one else to blame for my Lesbian Paring other than yours truly.

I have yet to meet a pigeon fancier who never made a gender mistake.

 

[Mary Of Exeter]

If it was driving another bird, it sounds like a male, or a female taking up that role.

 

[Hokum Coco]

Well E15 after all these post I will guarantee on thing!
If it lays an egg it is female!!!
When and if it does;
There also be no dissenting remarks after. LOL

 

[laughingdog]

Well funny and humbling/humiliating story from me most veterans on here probly already had fun with like i did with.. had twohatch mate sisters i bred myself, mostly for looks, took up to each other when given away and after they with what was left of flock. was brought back to me they were pretty much impossible to break and repair, attacking viciously any cock i tried to put one or both with but occasionally brother to father. i used as fosters as they were great at it! A buddy had had his eye on them and two males for about year, so i gave them to him telling problem ect. a week later they had been paired and nesting ect to some other cocks he had i think, and are great breeders with many beautiful strong young now. so goes to show what i know..

 

[pigeonE15]

the black pigeon has now been cooing to all my pigeons and guessing its a male. but not sure

 

[laughingdog]

You could try putting known male alone with new nest bowl. I've done this and seems to solve or at least better guess with three months. to year olds. had one hen who wouldn't show one way or another until two years old. had another female acting just like male, hand raised from hatching by me as constant free flying inside and out followed me everywere, sat on shoulder and tried to feed and groomed me, made nest, ect.. one day layed egg in my hand, and after put it in a nest on shelf she went to and tried to roll out. day later she layed again and started brooding, calling and having a male come to her, he hopped on, she hopped off, and back dancing round twirling circles cooing. both those were fertile. so no, no def telling of mix singly in photo, but pigeons can be a gamble, that's part of fun.