German New Hampshire

[gjensen]

I picked my growers off of the roost tonight and examined them with a flash light. I did find some with a stub or two. Not many. I will not keep them.

 

[gjensen]

I picked my growers off of the roost tonight and examined them with a flash light. I did find some with a stub or two. Not many. I will not keep them.

 

[The Old Yolks]

Could someone be so kind as to post a picture of what "stubs" look like. I am not familiar with this or what to look for on my birds. Thank you in advance.
Have a Blessed Day,
Nan

 

[fowlman01]

Could someone be so kind as to post a picture of what "stubs" look like. I am not familiar with this or what to look for on my birds. Thank you in advance.
Have a Blessed Day,
Nan

This is a bad case of stubs. They are feathers on the toes or shanks of a clean legged bird. (white feathers on this bantam Leghorn) In this case feathers running down the outside of the shank . My New Hamps don't have them this bad.

Walt

 

[gjensen]

Look for little feathers and the stems of feathers on the toes, between the toes, and on the shanks. Look your birds over, and if they have them, you will see them. I find it easier to pick them from the roost for exams. No drama, and the flashight illuminates whatever is there. I do this semi regularly anyways.
I listen to their breathing, look for mites and lice, and give them a general look over. I also take the time to feel them in my hands. The only hang up is knowing who you have checked or not. I get one of my boys to help, and put them in the run until I have done them all.

 

[gjensen]

Guess I was typing mine, when Walt posted the picture. Look on the toes and between the toes to.

 

[The Old Yolks]

Thank you so much for the photo and description. I haven't seen anything noticeable but you can bet I am going to pluck them off the roosts tonight and look them over very carefully. From 23 hatched I am down to 6 from my recent culling. This may cut my numbers yet again. Thank you again for the help.
Have a Blessed Day,
Nan

 

[gjensen]

What I do not understand is the inheritance of these stubs. It does not seam to be as simple as a simple recessive. I know the matings, and the math does not make sense. I will keep them out of my pens, and keep keeping track of where they might come from when they do. Maybe I will understand it at some point.
Also keep looking. Some will show up on adults that were not evident as juveniles.

 

[fowlman01]

What I do not understand is the inheritance of these stubs. It does not seam to be as simple as a simple recessive. I know the matings, and the math does not make sense. I will keep them out of my pens, and keep keeping track of where they might come from when they do. Maybe I will understand it at some point.
Also keep looking. Some will show up on adults that were not evident as juveniles.

Generally stubs are the result of introduction of a feather legged bird somewhere along the line......but not always. Some ducks can have stubs and there are no Mallard derivative ducks with feathers on their feet.

Walt

 

[gjensen]

Generally stubs are the result of introduction of a feather legged bird somewhere along the line......but not always. Some ducks can have stubs and there are no Mallard derivative ducks with feathers on their feet.

Walt

Thank you.

I do not think these gene is the same as what the feather legged breeds. I was thinking it was a simple recessive, but I know who comes from what. It does not quite line up that way. However, I did get to thinking that just because I do not see them doesn't mean they are not hidden under the leg scales? One of the reasons that I was thinking it was a recessive gene, was that I never seen or heard of it from the initial crosses. Doesn't mean that in subsequent generations it could not start showing back up.
Mostly the pairings do not produce any that are evident yet. I will just keep watching, looking, and knowing where I get them from. Or don't. The bad thing is that I did see a few, but the good thing is that I did not see many.
I did a check of the cocks and hens, and they are still stub free.