Getting the flock out of here - a diary of a crazy chicken man

[ozexpat]

ahh the things that come up on this thread

 

[FridayYet]

That's why it is so fun to read!

 

[LFchixranch]

What ever happened to the tried and trued diet and exercise? Everything in moderation.... OH **** let me change my Avatar......

 

[Sally Sunshine]

What ever happened to the tried and trued diet and exercise? Everything in moderation.... OH **** let me change my Avatar......

LOL thats for L O S E R S !!! bawahahhhahhhahhaaaa

 

[ozexpat]

tapeworms are more organic

 

[LFchixranch]

Good point Oz.. Amazing the vegans didnt come up with it first

 

[Sweetpea3829]

did some reading on Betel Nut.... Very interesting The nut comes from a fruit that grows on the Areca palm. That fruit is considered a drupe because the nut is inside the fruit... Much like peaches and plums and Almonds and cashews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areca_nut

Id be surprised if you could source this in the US.... Maybe at Asian groceries???. People chew it for a similar effect as coffee...


For what its worth Tobacco is also a decent wormer.

I am assuming both work on parasites within the gut? I couldnt read the abstract.... on Betel nut....

Oh and by the way I finally figured out why fireplace ashes are a good dusting medium for controlling external parasites on chickens. It was an AHAA moment when I was researching natural sources for Baking Soda.... When you soak ashes with water they produce potash or Lye.
deb

Deb, what other good uses are there fore fireplace ashes? Because we have a BOATLOAD of the stuff. We usually just dump it in an ash pile on a corner of the property, but if I can put it to good use, I'd prefer to do so. Does it matter much what kind of wood ash it is?

I read that bit on your thread about the bag stuffing chicken lover with the super caring kid.

Its hard to let them go like that but hopefully it goes from bag to fridge fast enough that its not too miserable.

Mrs Oz is getting me some game fowl transport boxes to sell to those who dont have sense to bring one. She beat me up for making a plywood box for the last sale.

Quail are the ultimate sustainable farming type bird.

They start laying at 6-8 weeks - low pre production feed bill
They lay 7 eggs a week
They consume 3kg of feed for every 1kg of eggs (a good chicken is 4:1) (thats about 75c per kilo of very good protein - on par with cheap fish and 50% cheaper than chicken)
Males can be vent sexed at start of lay - 75% of males go in the fridge

Only down side is they dont set (so people have to buy them from me

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I would have given them up along time ago if there were not so many upsides.

Hunh....hadn't really given much thought to the positives of quail. Do the eggs taste like chicken eggs? How many quail eggs would be equivalent to a chicken egg? What about eatin's? I really like my birds to be dual-purpose, which is why I'm probably going to phase out my EEs. Pretty egg, but the eatins' isn't really that great...too skinny.

 

[ozexpat]

Deb, what other good uses are there fore fireplace ashes? Because we have a BOATLOAD of the stuff. We usually just dump it in an ash pile on a corner of the property, but if I can put it to good use, I'd prefer to do so. Does it matter much what kind of wood ash it is?



Hunh....hadn't really given much thought to the positives of quail. Do the eggs taste like chicken eggs? How many quail eggs would be equivalent to a chicken egg? What about eatin's? I really like my birds to be dual-purpose, which is why I'm probably going to phase out my EEs. Pretty egg, but the eatins' isn't really that great...too skinny.

here are some comparisons

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/609183/quail-vs-chickens
http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/quail-or-chicken/?blogger=adouglas

 

[perchie.girl]

Quote: Take a look at the internet with regards to uses for fireplace ashes... but what I know from fox fire books, listening to my dad, and basic internet search

Soaking firelpace ash with water then filtering it through something to exclude the sediments then allowing it to dry produces Potash That last process of drying should be done in a non reactive conatiner. Because Potash is in essence LYE. Which is a base. The opposite of a base is an acid... Like Vinegar. Both bases and acids will eat through flesh.... in their purest and concentrated form. Mix the two and they nutralize each other.

Potash,historically, has been an incredible influence on the "diet" of humans. World wide... uses were discovered independantly.

for instance what I know about lye/potash:
Corn, Initially corn was soaked in ash water to make it more digestively available to humans. Native Americans used it, corn processed with Potash turns Blue.
Acorns soaked in Potash are less bitter and make an excellent substitute for flour.
Potash is used in the makeing of soap.... Lye and tallow...
Olives soaked in Lye make them edible... There is a process involved...
Tanning leather...I know its done but havent a clue

http://www.passportpotash.com/potash.html

The ash itself can be used for"-:

Ten uses for wood ashes
http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/article/0,,1581470,00.html

20 uses for wood ashes
http://voices.yahoo.com/20-amazing-unusual-uses-fireplace-ash-10556107.html

uses... with cautions... Very informative as to what you burn to make ash.
http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/wood-ash-can-be-useful-yard-if-used-caution


With regard to Quail
I asked the same thing on another list about Quail

The eggs are very very small so making a standard US meal out of them... aint practical... LOL. but the eggs are often used in sushi as a topper eaten raw. They can be hardboiled as a snack. Hardboiled and preseved... Pickled eggs. Helped with this process but havent a clue as to what they taste like. The actual Quail is used in cuisine are coocked in various ways similar to squab. I havent a clue as to how they are used in the Phillipenes... but I betcha its to die for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quail_eggs

price per dozen eggs
http://www.localharvest.org/quail-eggs-C12788
distilled about eight bucks a dozen

May be worth it...

deb"exuse type Os under the influnce of a Single mALT"

 

[ozexpat]

The following isfrom an advert on sulit.com.ph

Description

WARNING : ONCE TASTED ALWAYS WANTED !

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1-7 days old chicks - P15 Each (34 cents)
1-2 weeks old chicks - P20 Each (47 cents)
2-3 weeks old pullets - P25 Each (58 cents)
(at 8 weeks they sell for $1.20)
We sell and supply fresh quail eggs @ P1.35 each. Minimum of 100 pcs. ($3.13 per hundred) (retail they sell for $1.50 for 30)

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PLEASE TEXT :
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Tip :
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Highly in demand but low supply in:

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- Food Catering Services
- Supermarkets
- Food Carts & Kiosks
- School Canteens
- Carenderias
- Terminals
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