Ok, I feel better after reading this thread. I was just coming to the forum to ask if I had stupid chickens or did they have a stupid owner. Guess it was me. I just had to run outside in a down pour and put them in their coop. They were standing by the run gate looking at the house like"daddy, come get us". The wild ones didn't even make me chase them, they stood for me to pick up and put in the coop. I put them to bed the last 2 nights and was wondering if they will ever get it. SO, now that I have been educated, I see I just need more patience and put them to bed for another week or two. My wife said I had spoiled them already. Guess not. whew