Golden Coturnix

[Bettacreek]

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That's generally why golden and brown jumbos are the largest. They're the two dominant colors (is rosetta dominant?!), so it makes it MUCH easier to choose color AND size.

 

[Friend2Fowl]

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Did you get your browns from BYRDJ also?

Yes, they were all from Byrdj. Just remember that two golden genes are fatal. So, if you breed golden to golden, you'll loose 25% of your eggs simply due to the double golden gene, so you'll still loose whatever else you'll loose for whatever other reasons.

I didn't think that had been proven? I know I've read where people speculated that there was a fatal gene in goldens, but I haven't had any problems with mine.

 

[Friend2Fowl]

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That's generally why golden and brown jumbos are the largest. They're the two dominant colors (is rosetta dominant?!), so it makes it MUCH easier to choose color AND size.

Golden is incomplete dominant over brown, for every 3 eggs set from a golden to brown breeding, theoretically you will get 2 golden chicks and 1 brown chick. I believe that rosetta (tibetan) is dominant over golden, but is not over brown. They are very confusing, and I've gotten to where I keep my colors seperate, so I seem to have forgotten

 

[darkfur]

If you want the colour genetics I have a pdf and spreadsheet you can have, just email or message me.
Every gold is a carrier of brown (pharoah) because having 2 gold genes is fatal as others said and gold is completely dominant over brown. That means if you *did* breed 2 golds together, the theoretical percentages of offspring are 25% dead because they inherited 2 gold genes, 50% gold carrying a brown, 25% brown.
The accepted way to breed golds is to breed them with brown. That way you get (statistically) 50% gold carrying brown, 50% brown.
Gold and brown can both carry white, white appears if the bird has 2 copies of the white gene.
Golds can carry the extended brown gene which produces rosetta and tibetan/range (ie gold is dominant over rosetta, tibetan). If you bred a gold bird carrying this gene to a brown, you can get some rosetta offspring. The extended brown gene will make brown birds rosetta, or tibetan/range if they have 2 copies of it. A brown bird can't carry the extended brown gene without you knowing it - if it has it it will be rosetta or tibetan/range.
One copy of the white gene will produce tuxedos in rosettas and tibetan/range birds, two copies will produce white birds.
The colours of the blotch on white birds reflects their other colour genetics - don't breed whites with gold blotches to each other or to golds, it has the same lethal effect as breeding gold to gold.
I explain it a lot better in my pdf but it takes a lot of pages to do so lol partly because it has photos of the colours to help identify them. Anyone who wants it can have it but they cannot pass it on without my permission as I am likely to be publishing it as a chapter in a book in the future. It is a bit complex and sciency but if you have questions I am fine with being asked for clarifications.

 

[Bettacreek]

That is what I had thought, thank you Darkfur. If you wouldn't mind, I'd love the pdf, no harm in learning the genetics further.

 

[Friend2Fowl]

I would as well, it would come in handy

So now I guess I have to rearrange my birds, since all my goldens are in the same pen

 

[darkfur]

can do, but please send me a message so I can keep track of who I have sent it to

will need your email address in the message to send it