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Okay corn ice cream?? are the people over weight?
Do you know, the basic diet here is rice and beans with meat of some kind. Most people that eat traditionally here are people who work on the land and eat this twice a day, and are a skinny as a rake. For sweet things they use corn...they make flour with it, then make a host of different things, including cakes, desserts and ice-cream. Some of the things I don´t like, but the ice-cream is lovely.

There are some over-weight people, yes, not as many as seem to be in the States, but the biggest problem really is the amount of sugar they put with everything. And the fast-food commerce which is growing rapidly here. I think the traditional use of corn isn´t causing any problem.......but I do have to limit myself!!
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Do you know, the basic diet here is rice and beans with meat of some kind. Most people that eat traditionally here are people who work on the land and eat this twice a day, and are a skinny as a rake. For sweet things they use corn...they make flour with it, then make a host of different things, including cakes, desserts and ice-cream. Some of the things I don´t like, but the ice-cream is lovely.

There are some over-weight people, yes, not as many as seem to be in the States, but the biggest problem really is the amount of sugar they put with everything. And the fast-food commerce which is growing rapidly here. I think the traditional use of corn isn´t causing any problem.......but I do have to limit myself!!
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Very interesting, and I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned fast food, That's got to be the biggest weight problem in USA . All I've ever heard is don't eat corn it's what they used to fatten the hogs before slaughter. lol
 
Very interesting, and I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned fast food, That's got to be the biggest weight problem in USA . All I've ever heard is don't eat corn it's what they used to fatten the hogs before slaughter. lol
Well, yes, exactly..there are pizza houses and burger bars everywhere, and sweets/candies, soda drinks are extremely popular too....generally lacking in sufficient good stuff but puts on the weight.......so corn must be useful too for getting geese through cold winters, for example. Or for fattening up a goose that´s got skinny. I use it here, but not a lot, as it´s usually warm and they don´t need help from their food to get warm here. But just as I enjoy a (green) corn ice-cream, so do they enjoy their corn...mmmmmm
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Well, yes, exactly..there are pizza houses and burger bars everywhere, and sweets/candies, soda drinks are extremely popular too....generally lacking in sufficient good stuff but puts on the weight.......so corn must be useful too for getting geese through cold winters, for example. Or for fattening up a goose that´s got skinny. I use it here, but not a lot, as it´s usually warm and they don´t need help from their food to get warm here. But just as I enjoy a (green) corn ice-cream, so do they enjoy their corn...mmmmmm
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Green corn ice cream that's just so intriguing got any pics? lol
 
Green corn ice cream that's just so intriguing got any pics? lol
Haha, it´s more yellow, it´s called green because it´s new, freshly picked, rather than mature. I don´t have a pic, but I´ll try to remember to take one next time I go to the ice-cream parlour. (that´s not as often as my geese eat corn, by the way) They´ll think I´m potty! It´s so normal here, no-one takes pics of "sweet" corn ice-cream!
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They have chewing-gum ice-cream too, (blue) and some other peculiar ones....of course, pestachio really is green!
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and mint chocolate chip, oh my. they will think your a tourist if you take pics.
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Sounds like the fast food industry has taken over the world and making billions in the process. I've never been a fast food person actually. I like home cooked. but my weakness is really good ice cream.
 
OK, thanks for your thoughts, pips...and, of course, the most important thing for geese to eat is grass, as in nature...which is what I found interesting, as mine eat huge amounts of grass., they´re on pasture. I love watching them, all facing the same direction, slowly making their way across, nibbling and eating the grass, then all to the stream, and then do it all over again.....
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( I must say, though, that I´ve seen photos of wild geese with angel wing......)
But corn is not that high in protein, so I don´t think it´s that that´s caused it, they eat so little too (as it´s fattening)...I fed much more corn to my first goslings that I had, as I didn´t have the place tamed (was all long grass and marsh), so there wasn´t as much edible grass around for them. They had no problems growing into normal geese.
Maybe just one of those things.....only 3 have it.......5 others don´t. Thanks for your input, though.
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I just wanted to add that I do not think it is protein that causes angel wing, I think it is carbs. Again geese in the wild eat lots of grass and some eat little amphibians and fish - lots of protein.....
 
Interesting information. In think you may be right about the carbs instead of high protein. I have dealt with 3 cases of angelwing. 1st was a duck fed 20% flockraiser and a small amount of greens. The 2nd was a goose fed 16% mazuri waterfowl with moderate greens. The last was a goose that I believe was fed (by previous owner) chicken scratch. Thankfully, all three were fixed with wrapping and diet changes.
 
Interesting information. In think you may be right about the carbs instead of high protein. I have dealt with 3 cases of angelwing. 1st was a duck fed 20% flockraiser and a small amount of greens. The 2nd was a goose fed 16% mazuri waterfowl with moderate greens. The last was a goose that I believe was fed (by previous owner) chicken scratch. Thankfully, all three were fixed with wrapping and diet changes.
J, wasn't it your vet who said feed whole corn daily, I hope so because ever since you said that mine have been getting it. I don't feed it to my young ducklings because I think it's too big for them but I wouldn't want to give them[flock] something that knowingly would hurt them. Oh my do they love whole corn though. I know it's mostly GMO and that's a whole nother topic.
 
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