grannys gone and done it

[Granny Hatchet]

How strange. I was planning to pm Kathy and ask her to check in here for some more advice. You beat me to it!

She is on my local thread and really knows her stuff. She researches everything and helps people no matter how many times she's repeated herself.


campingshaws, so sorry about your birds. As horrible as it looks, they can recover. It happened to me. I was 25 when I got chicken pox. It was really ugly. I covered all the mirrors in the house, because my face was so deformed, it would make me depressed and panicky at the same time. Took a long while, but I recovered just fine. Still not overly fond of mirrors, though.

The only thing I can add is to make sure the Neosporin does NOT have pain reliever in it. Things ending with "-caine" like lidocaine, can be fatal for some chickens.

Oh, and an eye wash is different than saline solution. It has a small amount of boric acid which makes it a good antiseptic. Better for your needs than saline.

did the pox leave scars ? I dont think i had it. I know i didnt but i am not fond of mirrors myself for other reasons. LOL

 

[Granny Hatchet]

I am sorry wishing, that was so none of my business. sometimes my mouth just skips my brain.

talked to breeder a min. ago. he says that the serama pr. i have should throw tri-colored babys.

 

[Eggcessive]

Respiratory needs the tylan, right? My local feed store doesn't carry it, but does TSC?

It looks to me like you are dealing with a serious case of fowl pox, with both wet and dry. The gunky cheesy stuff in the roof of the beak is wet pox. I have no experience with pox this severe. Most people think antibiotics probably don't help since it is a virus, but I would give the tylan myself since staph and e.coli can infect the eye. Baytril 10% would work better if you can order it online. The lesions around the eyes need neosporin, but nothing has to be done to the ones on the skin, although iodine or betadine will help dry them. I would not remove the lesions on the skin because you can actually spread it more. Kathy thinks you should remove them I believe, but I disagree with that part. In the second link below, it says not to. But the lesion inside should be removed if possible since those can block the airway. Their mouths are very sore, and they don't eat well, so starving is how some die from pox. Casportpony has a very good thread on crop feeding, since birds with wet pox may need it. I agree that you need to start your own thread since many of us just look at this one occasionally, because it is more social now. Here are some good links:
http://www.hyline.com/aspx/redbook/redbook.aspx?s=5&p=35
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publications/6/diseases-of-poultry/195/fowl-pox

 

[Suzierd]

I have seen some pics of birds with pox that looked like they would have a respitory disease but didn't it was just pox so hopefully that's the case here. Poor girls very sorry your dealing with this.

 

[Wishing4Wings]

I am sorry wishing, that was so none of my business. sometimes my mouth just skips my brain.

talked to breeder a min. ago. he says that the serama pr. i have should throw tri-colored babys.

No need for apologies!

I didn't get any lasting scars. My skin is very fair, so I don't scar badly (but burn in about 15 minutes!). I was very careful not to mess with the sores.

I meant to answer about your chick color question, but my brain keeps veering off course. I would be really surprised if you did NOT get chicks that are different from the parents. White has been APA accepted, and breeders are working on black and some other varieties, but none of the other colors have been standardized to any extent. My chicks came from the same almost-white rooster. The 5 hen-mamas are all are different colors, except for 2 mottled. Out of 9 chicks, I got 7 that are completely different to any of the adults. Only the 2 brown laced looking ones are duplicates. I think your chances are good!

You know, I'm on pins and needles waiting for yours to hatch!!!

 

[Granny Hatchet]

thank you wishing. ya, i am pretty excited too.

 

[Sylviaanne]

think i would x the pumpkin too. if they are just little or new born I would try nothing but wet and dry crumbles.

No, they are about 6 weeks old, maybe 7 weeks. I don't have my book in front of me to check.

Just an update. I had one more chick die but it was pretty weak. I even plugged in an incubator and put it in there. At least it died warm and with a full belly.

I have been giving them the Corid, medicated chick starter, canned fish and I found out they LOVE, absolutely LOVE canned chicken noodle soup. I mix it with their dry food right out of the can, no added water but if I do add water I use the Corid water. They grab up those noodles and run screaming around the pen like a flock of birds were after them. No one is paying any attention cause they are digging for their own noodles. LOL

I am not yet building any faith that no more will die but I have hope now. I have one little baby that hatched, um, maybe a week old now but I will not put it in with them nor in that pen until I have thoroughly washed, bleached and sprayed it with disinfecting spray. I have no idea how long wood and wire can hold a sickness and I don't know if sunlight without heat can sterilize but I just may not use it again until summer gets here. Well, once I get these birds out of it.

I don't know for sure how many babies I had when they started to die but there are pitiful few compared to what it used to look like in that pen.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

I can see the picture you paint. LOL I will have to try some chicken noodle when/if mine hatch. talk about some benny hill music. hhaaaha hopefuly the worst is over for you. sit you brooder outside . the sun is always shining .even when its behind the clouds. it will still help. I used some weak bleach water on my styrofoam bator . didnt hurt anything and it sure helped the smell my loving neighbor left behind in it. I know now what it was but i will spare all of you the details of it. my husband has bought me a new one for our anniversary and he made a point of asking me not to loan it. it was unnecessary because i wouldnt do that again anyway. do you have pics. of your set up and the chicken noodle chicks ?

 

[Granny Hatchet]

I just finished reading eggsessives links and i will just tell you, I dont think i want to eat chicken any more. what has happened ? not our grannys chickens thats for sure. what caused all of this. I dont think it is better knowledge of the chicken as a whole. I dont think we had these awful problems back when. population ? same thing that is giving people so much cancer now ? it has to be us. some how some way, we are bringing this on. Not you personally but something we are doing wrong. the wild birds or insects spreading it ? where did they get it and why are they not showing symptoms ? I have never seen a wild bird with sores on its face. its very confusing . question please. what is cornish game hens you buy at the grocery store ? I thought it was like 4 week old chickens.

 

[enola]

Please tell me they are 4 weeks old at butchering time......