Great danes and the flock

[cw]

never said he was a bad dog one of the best weve had, but he is determined. you say 2 strands af hot wire, dont evev look at it just goes through? yet it pancakes the horses? I tried the shock collar and diff. levels , had to put the long hair dog prongs on to get a response from him ( had it turned all the way up and I did like the instructions said.

 

[cw]

father in law says I need a 2*4 to desipline him? but i could never lay a hand on him.

 

[sandypaws]

put 4 strands of hotwire.... WET the ground all around the coop AND him, soak him.. if he is THAT stuborn use salt water...
make sure it is a COW fencer.. i have NEVER seen it fail..

well,, if it his LIFE we are talking about, i would use the 2X4..
i had an AKITA trained to leave the chickens alone,, but could not break him from trying to kill the barn cats.. i put a cage muzzle on him when i let him in that part of the yard.. he had a fenced 1/2 acer up around the house.. the chickens, horses, goats and barn cats were on the other 2 acers..

 

[redhen]

Quote:
ouch!...

 

[cw]

the coop is no more since the chiikens are gone? i am kinda worried about the horses, he is always harresing them? they have kicked him in the ribs and i thought he was a gonner, but got up and run em down again, as far as shock goes i think im gonna go 110 if the dont work will try 220.

 

[donnap1967]

Never use a 2*4 on an animal. It's not going to teach them to be good. It's going to teach them fear. Fear can go two ways...fight or flight. Considering this is such a big animal I wouldn't count on flight and take my chances. Beating any animal is never the way to teach them anything.

If an animal is attacking then hell yes, I will do whatever I have to do. But never beat an animal to teach it a lesson.

Honestly, the best thing to do imo, is keep the dog and chickens separated and make sure the chickens are in a secure run when the dog is out.

Not trying to be rude or bossy. I was a dog trainer and I have seen what comes of animals taught with fear and it's never good.

 

[hensonly]

We have five dogs - and our chickens are securely fenced. I think if you can't keep your animals safe together, you have to be responsible enough to keep them separated. How you do that depends on your situation, priorities, and point of view. My dogs get along fine with each other and with the cats, but I wouldn't trust any of them for a second with the chickens. Three would eat the chirps, the other two would try to play with them and/or carry them around - but either way the birds would be just as dead!

By the way, the dogs don't run loose either, but are sometimes off leash for training and during walks in our 60 acres of woods. They stay leashed until we are past the coop, then they can go run and play, or we go to the field to train. I don't think it's fair to the dog to put him in the position of being able to easily kill the chickens, nor of course is it fair to the hens to put them in danger from another member of your household. The bottom line is that all dogs are carnivores and predators, and while you can teach them to control their instincts, you can't train their natures out of them. So, if you are going to have both kinds of animals, it's your job to keep them all safe! It's good to read all the posts, all the different ways people have of managing their "families"!

I figure that we don't always control our baser instincts - why would we expect our dogs to do so. After all, they have about the reasoning ability of an 18 month old. How many 18 month old people would you trust unsupervised with your chickens? And people's teeth aren't nearly as sharp as a dog's!

Anyway, that's just my take on it - keep those posts coming!

 

[sandypaws]

CW,,it also sounds like YOU are NOT the "pack leader" (as the dog wisperer would say).. in other words, that dog has NO RESPECT for you, and you will never be able to train him untill you demand that respect... you are the second in command at in that pack..

i love my dogs, my dogs love me,, they will protect me, and listen to me..
they are not well trained.. but my dogs respect me as their leader and have manners....

so sad to hear of someones life ruled by a dog.. you cant have chickens and are afraid he will hurt the horses????
you should not own that dog.. you need a poodle,, a TOY poodle..
sorry to be so brutally BLUNT, but because i work in the DOG world, i see this all the time.. and it frusterates me..

and yes OUCH!!!!! but it WORKS and he needs to be KNOCKED off his feet when he gets near the chickens,, and if the owner wont do it, the an electric fence needs to do it..

 

[cw]

he does what i say when i say it! its when were not around when he gets his wild hairs. dont apoligize for being blunt some people thats what it takes as far as the dog goes he be got rid of one way or another if he dont tighten up. as far as showing signs of aggresion, he dont.(better not he'll get shot my children are too small for that s$^&) very friendly, and he has his good moments/

 

[sandypaws]

ever think about what will happen if he gets out of your yard and goes kills someone elses chickens??? or goats?? or fatally wounds a horse?? and then chases a child on a bike????
where is it gonna end??
i know you said all he has done is kill your chickens.. OK no big deal... but it sounds like he is not under your control.. and he will never be under your control with an additude like
"i could never lay a hand on him"... you will always be #2 in his eyes..
again sorry to be so brutally honest..