Great Pyrenees (9 months old) training collar

[chickenzoo]

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He thinks the chickens are toys, and does not understand they "break". I asked about the killing issue earlier, and since I am recovering from knee replacement surgery, I am not able to do any hands on training. I do not have any place I can fence up the chickens, they free range on 3 acres, I tried putting him in the fenced yard (5 ft tall chain link) for my house dogs, but he goes right over the fence as if nothing was there at all.

In your case I personally would just go ahead and get a good shock collar that has multiple tones, beeps and vibrations as well as a shock. My thinking is that if you are layed up and can not protect your chickens or go out to intervene if the dog does go for one, at least you have more options with the multiple color then just one spray. You can train with just the beep.... No shock... With different levels of sound. You can also use different levels of just a vibration, no shock...... But if all else fails ....then there is different levels of shock.

 

[zzGypsy]

in my experience the choice of collar has to be decided by the dog... shock works on some, spray on others.
we used bark collars on two of our rescue dogs (they came into the rescue for excessve barking among other things). on the lab / golden retriever cross, the shock collar with the warning beep worked great - on the airdale / lab cross it had absolutely NO effect at all. however the spray collar worked miracles. apparently you could hit the airdale with a taser and he wouldn't notice

he's a dog that doesn't seem to register physical discomfort of any sort when he's focused on some activity, but he dislikes the citron spray. A LOT.

having seen that, we tried the spray collar on the the other dog... didn't care if it sprayed or not, barked anyway.

We have not used remote training collars, but based on this experience, I think it depends on the dog.

interesting detail on the barking correction overall... the airdale cross learned the correct barking message - warning bark is ok, barking your head off is not. he got that and modified his behavior without requiring the collar after about a month. the other dog learned the same lesson, but knows it only applies if he's wearing the bark collar... so he gets to wear a weighted collar (feels like the bark collar) all the time, and then he behaves appropriately.

the reason I mention this is, not having worked with the remote collars, I wonder if the same issue could come up with the remote training collar? that is, they get wise to correction only happening when they're wearing the correction/weighted collar?

 

[chickenzoo]

ZZ, I think that is why it is really important to let the dog wear the remote collar for a day or more with out using correction. So they don't associate it with just the collar. I think because she is using it to control the mauling chicken behavior vs a barking behavior, it might be a little easier as dogs bark for good and bad reasons.....

 

[Jamie_Dog_Trainer]

If you go to my first post on this thread you can see I was talking about preventing a "collar wise" dog. It actually entails you having the collar on and off the dog, as part of a very regular routine for 2-3 weeks before you give your first stim. You have to test the dog on what stim level is the lowest level to be effective. Any lower and the correction will be ignored and/or confusing, any higher and the correction increases fear/anxiety in the dog. The routine of getting the dog used to the collar also involves the handler having the remote with them at all times with the dog, not just when outside doing XXXXX activity. This way the dog sees nothing unusual about the collar or the remote as they have just become another natural thing in the dogs life. When usuing the remote, however you always have a jacket with a large pocket and use the remote in there so the dog doesn't associate the correction with seeing you touching and paying attention to the remote.

 

[zzGypsy]

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ooo, I missed that, I'll go back and read again, thanks!