Green and Spalding chicks

[Peafowlssssssss]

This year i will put 2 pure green hens and a high percentage spalding hen(she is %75 or more) with my green male, and was thinking if someone will be able to tell the differences between the chicks, can anyone tell the pure green chicks and the spalding chicks when they are 4 months old?



And this is hopefully if they hatched any chicks this year

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

This is an old picture of the spalding hen few days after they arrived from America.

 

[AugeredIn]

I might not be able to tell until 6 months or so. At 75% or better they have to get pretty big to see the muddy face and bad wing barring. Especially on the hens.

 

[Pfauenfreund]

One general question, is the male on the picture your green peafowl? I’m asking, because the head is absolute untypical for a pure green. Maybe you male is high % Spalding too.
Anyway, I have a general question, what sense it makes to pair a high % spalding with a pure green male? At the end, you will have offspring, which are looking very, very similar to a pure green but indeed it is not a pure green and finally somebody is calling these offspring pure greens and this is the reason why so green breeding stocks destroyed today.
If somebody is experienced, he will be able to see after 9 to 12 month some small differences compared to real pure greens. But 90% of the people will not be able to see the differences and will call these birds pure greens.
This is my opinion, but maybe somebody can tell me what sense such a pairing has.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

I might not be able to tell until 6 months or so. At 75% or better they have to get pretty big to see the muddy face and bad wing barring. Especially on the hens.

Then I will properly move the spalding hen to another pen.

One general question, is the male on the picture your green peafowl? I’m asking, because the head is absolute untypical for a pure green. Maybe you male is high % Spalding too.
Anyway, I have a general question, what sense it makes to pair a high % spalding with a pure green male? At the end, you will have offspring, which are looking very, very similar to a pure green but indeed it is not a pure green and finally somebody is calling these offspring pure greens and this is the reason why so green breeding stocks destroyed today.
If somebody is experienced, he will be able to see after 9 to 12 month some small differences compared to real pure greens. But 90% of the people will not be able to see the differences and will call these birds pure greens.
This is my opinion, but maybe somebody can tell me what sense such a pairing has.

Yes, he is my green male, this image was taken directly after he arrived from USA with more than 36 hours in the shipping box, i was told he is green peacock but of course not imported one, these are recent images of him:











If you are sure 100% its not a pure green please let me know, i want people to know what they are getting from me.

 

[Dany12]

A fake green ... everyone can do it but a very high spalding Bronze that's interesting and unique!

All the color Spaldings are still rarely very high Spaldings!
A higher porcentage spalding than that!



A spalding is not just a little bit of yellow in the face the high spalding the quality of feathers in the neck must change.
When will we see Bronze spaldings with feathers like that?

 

[Pfauenfreund]

Quote: Thank you for the additional picture. I looked seriously on it and but I’m not able to give you a clear answer.
As I mentioned already above, the head form is round and this is normally not the case when you have a pure green male. The white feathers are a problem of captivity and on the new pictures; I didn’t see any typical additional spalding mark.

What I’m missing is any blue brilliance on the wing covers, this is a thing which can be linked with the wear condition of the plumage. If the male gets a lot of sun then the blue colour can be lost. But when I look on your pictures I assume he is mainly in the shadow and then he should have more colour. This issue you should observe after moulting then he should have the full colour back.

As you can see, I’m not able to give you a clear answer. There are some question marks, but definitely it is not able to clarify and this is the reason why I’m against high % spaldings. These birds are a problem in all breeding populations.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

Thank you for the additional picture. I looked seriously on it and but I’m not able to give you a clear answer.
As I mentioned already above, the head form is round and this is normally not the case when you have a pure green male. The white feathers are a problem of captivity and on the new pictures; I didn’t see any typical additional spalding mark.

What I’m missing is any blue brilliance on the wing covers, this is a thing which can be linked with the wear condition of the plumage. If the male gets a lot of sun then the blue colour can be lost. But when I look on your pictures I assume he is mainly in the shadow and then he should have more colour. This issue you should observe after moulting then he should have the full colour back.

As you can see, I’m not able to give you a clear answer. There are some question marks, but definitely it is not able to clarify and this is the reason why I’m against high % spaldings. These birds are a problem in all breeding populations.

Yes he is under the shadow, he is still growing his feathers back, he used to have blue color on his wings last year, he is still in small pen right now that's why he has many missing feathers, he will be moved to a bigger aviary next week, this is a picture taken last summer showing the blue on his wings, but it is also taken after he arrived from USA with two weeks:

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

A fake green ... everyone can do it but a very high spalding Bronze that's interesting and unique!

All the color Spaldings are still rarely very high Spaldings!
A higher porcentage spalding than that!



A spalding is not just a little bit of yellow in the face the high spalding the quality of feathers in the neck must change.
When will we see Bronze spaldings with feathers like that?

I just remembered I saw one of the nicest bronze pied birds here last week, the breeder is selling all his birds including this spalding bronze pied white eye bird, it was awesome.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

Btw the way i have seen many known breeders here or in America selling their spaldings as green birds while they aren't even 15/16 spaldings





I don't know a lot about green peafowl of course but i can still tell they are aren't pure!