Green liquidish poop with white particles.

[MysteryChicken]

I understand and I don't, and haven't, disagreed with you that carbs/sugars are an energy source. They are very important for the diet of both people and chickens, but you can't just live off of that food macros and be healthy. So are you trying to say that a diet of just carbs is sufficient? No fat or protein? I'm failing to understand what point you are trying to make.

No, not what I'm saying at all.
I was just trying to refer to what you said in your first post.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I know that the chickens need a balanced diet to survive.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Wasn't trying to confuse you.

 

[MysteryChicken]

A store bought feed is going to be the most nutritious, and accurate food you can give them. While the foods you are feeding your hens are safe for them, the diet is extremely limited, and low in fat and protein. Plus, while millet is higher in protein, it is not a complete protein. It does not contain lysine, which is a critical protein component for hens. Honestly, you'd be saving money in feed buy buying layer or all-flock feed, and you'll have healthier chickens overall. Healthier eggs, too. I can go on and on about mixing your own feed, so much so that I've spent months compiling a blog post about it to record some of my experiences. (https://humble-hills-farm.com/2020/...nd-cost-calculator-for-homemade-chicken-feed/) but even that post is not comprehensive. In my opinion, store bought feed is going to be the easiest, safest, cheapest, and most nutritious feed you can give your flock.

Edit: I calculated approximate ratios for your feed. If you did 3 pounds millet, 3 pounds barley, and 3 pounds of corn, you're giving them only 10% protein (and an incomplete protein at that) and 3% fat. The need a diet of 17% protein and 4% fat.


Actually, those grains are high in carbs, very little fat, and millet is not a complete protein either.

This post.

 

[Justso]

Hello once again. I am really humbled being a part of this community.
I have a question that I need to be asking is,
I noticed in some of Hens and roasters that they were pooping Yellowish foamy poop. I browsed in the threads and found that it could be cause by coccidia (early I have done the treatment of all the flock as they were pooping blood like 1.5 months back) so I gave them a dose for 3 days of Sulphadimedine. But even after the treatment I still found one of the hen and one roaster is still doing that foamy yellowish liquid poop.
But since yesterday I have noticed that one of the roster was not eating at all. Upon inspection found that his crop was like rock hard. Gave him some coconut oil like 10 ml of it and massaged it.
later in the day it was abit lower than before. But then he pooped this greenish with particles liquid.
Before you suggest kindly note that it's hot and humid temperature like in the afternoon temperatures are high uptil 42C and 70% humidity.
I am concern as he is my favourite among all.
Thank you I know the message got lengthy but have to tell all the points.

Catalyst, where are you located?

 

[humblehillsfarm]

Hello once again. I am really humbled being a part of this community.
I have a question that I need to be asking is,
I noticed in some of Hens and roasters that they were pooping Yellowish foamy poop. I browsed in the threads and found that it could be cause by coccidia (early I have done the treatment of all the flock as they were pooping blood like 1.5 months back) so I gave them a dose for 3 days of Sulphadimedine. But even after the treatment I still found one of the hen and one roaster is still doing that foamy yellowish liquid poop.
But since yesterday I have noticed that one of the roster was not eating at all. Upon inspection found that his crop was like rock hard. Gave him some coconut oil like 10 ml of it and massaged it.
later in the day it was abit lower than before. But then he pooped this greenish with particles liquid.
Before you suggest kindly note that it's hot and humid temperature like in the afternoon temperatures are high uptil 42C and 70% humidity.
I am concern as he is my favourite among all.
Thank you I know the message got lengthy but have to tell all the points.

I got caught up in this discussion on diet and had to back track and read the original post. To me it sounds like your Rooster has sour crop. I am not an expert on this topic but I have followed a few esteemed chicken keepers in the field (the Chicken Chick is a favorite of mine) and have read from these sources that an inadequate diet can lead to digestive issues. I do not know if this is the case with your chickens, it could be unrelated. Of course now you need to address the most immediate issue (probably sour crop), and I do not know the best course of action. However once this is resolved, I would turn your focus to better diet.

 

[Catalyst]

Catalyst, where are you located?

Karachi, Pakistan. Asian country.

 

[Catalyst]

Here's what a nutritionally balanced feed could look like if you made your own:
For 30 pounds:
4 pounds barley (energy/carb)
0.5 pounds Brewer's Yeast (very important for key B vitamins)
3 pounds cracked corn (energy/carb)
4 pounds lentils(protein source)
2 pounds millet (energy/carb)
2 pounds oats (energy/carb)
4.5 pounds field peas (protein source)
1 pounds black oil sunflower seeds (protein and fat source)
5 pounds DURUM wheat (protein source; durum wheat & buckwheat contains the highest amount of Lysine among grains)
4 pounds soft wheat (energy/carb, plus a little protein)

This equals 16.1% protein and 3.8% fat, right in the target range for laying hens and it provides nutritional variety. I chose this blend because these are the most affordable grains you can buy and have a variety. Some of the bulk grains were priced from Tractor Supply, and others from organic sources. This would cost about $21 to make a 30 pound blend.

Put into perspective, a 50 pound bag of layer pellets at Tractor Supply with 16% protein costs $12.

Thank you Miss for your awesome replies. Actually the thing there is this factory made feed available which is used by poultry industry. It smells really foul like makes me vomit (once I did try to smell it and the smell didn't go away for like a day from my nostrils felt like my nose hairs were burned hehe). They put alot of "fish meal". The chickens loved it but their poop and the area would smell so bad I can't write it down. So I discounted it and try to feed them my own homemade (atleast I knew of the ingredients I put. selected top/best quality available).
Anyways hehe I would like to know about a few things you mentioned in your post like
1. Soft wheat: does it mean the cracked wheat?
2. Durum wheat? Don't quite know what that is.
Rest of the items you mentioned are easily available except for Brewer yeast.
(Till last month I would feed them somewhat similar feed but discontinued sun flower seeds as I thought the hot weather might cause them more heat inside and now fees them the mixture of the 3 items I shared earlier)

 

[humblehillsfarm]

Thank you Miss for your awesome replies. Actually the thing there is this factory made feed available which is used by poultry industry. It smells really foul like makes me vomit (once I did try to smell it and the smell didn't go away for like a day from my nostrils felt like my nose hairs were burned hehe). They put alot of "fish meal". The chickens loved it but their poop and the area would smell so bad I can't write it down. So I discounted it and try to feed them my own homemade (atleast I knew of the ingredients I put. selected top/best quality available).
Anyways hehe I would like to know about a few things you mentioned in your post like
1. Soft wheat: does it mean the cracked wheat?
2. Durum wheat? Don't quite know what that is.
Rest of the items you mentioned are easily available except for Brewer yeast.
(Till last month I would feed them somewhat similar feed but discontinued sun flower seeds as I thought the hot weather might cause them more heat inside and now fees them the mixture of the 3 items I shared earlier)

Durum wheat is a hard winter wheat, planted in the fall and harvested the following summer. It's higher and protein, more likely to be used in making pasta or bread.

Soft wheat is a spring wheat (usually), planted early spring and harvested later in the summer. It's a lower protein flour usually used for pastries, cookies, scones, etc. If you can give me some kind of idea of what kind of wheat you have access to, I can try to readjust the recipe for you. Would you have access to kelp meal or nutritional yeast?

Here is an excellent discussion in why you should stick with commercial feed (if you can): https://the-chicken-chick.com/how-homemade-feed-can-hurt-your-chickens/

I don't know much about your region though to know if the locally available feed is of high quality or not. Is there another source you could try??

 

[humblehillsfarm]

I also want to add, that growing conditions can radically affect the nutritional quality of feed, so even though I've calculated protein and fat content, what may be grown in Pakistan may be nutritionally different than something grown in the US just based on soil quality and variety of crop grown. For example, popcorn for example has even lower protein content than feed corn.