Grrrr.. Need help with idiot BIL's sick dog.

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  1. cmjust0

    cmjust0 Songster

    Apr 30, 2009
    Central KY

    I could spit NAILS right now, but...question first: Does anybody know the dog dosage for regular ol' horse Red Cell? This dog's bad anemic and needs a perk up really soon. Like, right now. I don't have any canine Red Cell and the dog will almost certainly be dead before we could get it shipped.. I have horse Red Cell on hand, though, and I've heard of people using it in dogs...I just need a dosage.

    Ok, that's the rant..

    My BIL is an idiot, first of all. His dog's been slowly slipping downhill for months now with a case of worms, of all things....worms. Just fricken worms!! How hard is that to take care of?!? [​IMG]

    He let the dog get to the point of almost complete anorexia before taking her to the vet the first time, and the vet gave him wormer that goes on food -- he didn't say anything. Let's won't eat because of gives you wormer to put on take it and walk out like a MORON without saying a word.

    Naturally, the dog didn't get all the wormer, so what does he do? Waits like three weeks and goes back for a pill, which he doesn't want to give her because she's not eating and he's afraid it will hurt her tummy. We don't know if he actually gave her the worming pill or not, but even if he did, it was Pyrantel...which is crap, IMNSHO.

    ANYWAY...he took the dog back to the vet because she wasn't eating and had gotten really bad AGAIN after the worming pill he may or may not have ever given her...wasn't energy...dehydrated...really bad shape. The vet put her on IV fluids and ran a bunch of tests for cancer, obstructions, etc, because she apparently just looked terrible.. Nothing. They think the worms go so bad that she's basically just anemic and weak and may have stomach ulcers. Vet actually recommended to put her down. BIL said she perked up when he came in, so he took her home....

    Here's the thing.. My wife and I offered to come give the dog fenbendazole and a shot of b-complex -- totally FREE, mind you...our meds, our time, no charge -- several weeks ago when she was still viable. No thanks, he had a softball game to go to and then just never updated us on how she was doing until she's practically dead.


    NOW, of course, he wants our help. Wants my wife to go dog-sit for him, like she's got nothing better to do....even though one of our dogs has a vet appointment tomorrow for a chronic ear thing that's driving her nuts.. Who cares about that, right?

    Like I said...I could spit nails right now. [​IMG]

    It's not the dog's fault, though, so if someone knows a Red Cell dosage, we're gonna try that along with fenbendazole and a shot of b-complex.. May even throw a little tetracycline or naxcel at her.. She's dead anyway -- why not? I swear, though...if there's anybody in this scenario who needs to be put down, it's my fricken BIL.

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  2. Countrywife

    Countrywife Corrupted by a Redneck

    Aug 20, 2009
    I have no idea on the dosage, but I do know you can use molasses for a quick red cell pick me up- I would try that and the wormer. it would be somethign anyway- has that dog been tested for heartworm?
  3. Freebie

    Freebie Songster

    Feb 4, 2007
    Bloomingdale, MI
    I really wish I could help... Have no idea on the dosage, just wanted to add I hate idiot BIL's.
  4. txredneckmedic

    txredneckmedic Songster

    Apr 20, 2009
    I too have a idiot BIL...but thats besides the point. I know the regular dosage for horses that are not working (not roping ect) is 1ounce. I would start at like 1/2 a cc probably depending on the dogs weight. IDK if that would be too much or not but if the dogs pretty much dead it really cant hurt.

  5. horsejody

    horsejody Squeaky Wheel

    Feb 11, 2008
    Waterloo, Nebraska
    I would call the vet and ask him/her. BTW is the BIL going to rehome the dog if it recovers? He's obvioulsy too stupid to have pets. The dog will just be neglected again even if it gets better. He really doesn't deserve the dog, and the dog deserves a better owner.
  6. cmjust0

    cmjust0 Songster

    Apr 30, 2009
    Central KY
    I know the commonly accepted dosage for an anemic adult dairy goat (130-150lbs, maybe) is like 15cc/day for a week, which is basically a tablespoon. This dog is supposed to be about 80lbs...but probably more like 60-70lbs now, though I haven't seen her yet to know..

    Meh...I'm thinking 10ml. She's dead anyway, right? [​IMG]

    I would give her banamine to make her feel better, but if she's already got GI ulcers...not a good idea. I think she could probably stand some Pepto Bismol, though, so we'll probably do that.

    This is all provided that the dog isn't DEAD before we can get out there, btw.. Might very well be. If not, I'm sure we'll probably burn through a few $2 packets of electrolytes on her, too, since he's likely too much of a dbag to go buy any of his own..

    I'm also thinking of going nuclear on the worms...ivomec injectable, dosed orally. She might have a little collie in her family tree which could make it deadly, but....oh well. If the old "White feet - don't treat" adage is true, it should be OK. She looks like a dobie mix or something.

    Anyway... I hate this. Why can't people bring themselves to take five seconds out of their "fun time" to take care of their actual responsibilities!!?? [​IMG]
  7. cmjust0

    cmjust0 Songster

    Apr 30, 2009
    Central KY
    Quote:Oh, here's the awesome part... We had a litter of 5wo pups basically dropped on us to rehome at one point.. He got one. We didn't know he was quite this stupid back then..

    He still has her. She's not the sick dog in question, but almost certainly will be a sick dog one day if he keeps her.

    Wife's already mentioned stealing her back...yes, stealing, since he never so much as reimbursed us for shots/worming we did, even though that was part of the deal from the word go.. Problem is, we really can't take her back because she's husky/gsd mix and we have livestock.. But...yeah...awesome to have to dread the day he tells us she's dying too, huh?

    Really thinking I might have to send BIL off to Camp Kenmore at some point.

    ETA..sorry, yeah, calling the vet is probably [​IMG]
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2009

  8. cmjust0

    cmjust0 Songster

    Apr 30, 2009
    Central KY
    Wife is ticked. Like, mad as I've seen her in a looooong time. It's her brother, and she called her dad who's also really angry as well. BIL wants my wife and his dad to drive 25+ miles to sit with the dog while he's working...until the dog dies of dehydration and anemia, I guess.

    I think we may be done here.

    Sucks for the dog, but hey....we both offered to help him before, and we're not miracle workers. Wife and her dad both are probably going to tell him to go ahead and put her down if he's let it go this far and she's suffering.

  9. Wolf-Kim

    Wolf-Kim Songster

    Jan 25, 2008
    If the dog is a good dog, and has potential at being rehomed, and you have the time and money to try and save her, then try and save her and rehome her.

    Honestly, if she is this far gone, if may be better and faster to just put her down. Euthanasia or a bullet to the brain. It's sad, but if she won't make a good family dog and have a good chance of finding a new and better home, then the effort spent in rehabbing her and then trying to find her a responsible home, just might be too long of a shot. [​IMG]

    Steal the other dog back. Regardless of your livestock, keep it chained of penned if you must. Find it a good, responsible home.

    Tell your BIL he's an idiot. I'd be tempted to even call the humane society on him, so he thinks it through next time he "thinks" about getting a dog.

    Contrary to popular beliefs, dogs are NOT for everyone. [​IMG]

  10. Countrywife

    Countrywife Corrupted by a Redneck

    Aug 20, 2009
    If you will go get that dog, I will send you $20.00 to contribute to its care. Hate to see somebody do that to a dog. For pete sake, time to beat the man with a stupid stick. As far as the other pup- I have a german shephard here who has never had a problem with the chickens, occasinally chases a goat, but he stays at the house and the goats are in the field. His momma and daddy were in my field till the day they both passed on. Not an automatic that the shephard is bad for livestock.
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