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I would imagine Elvis is pretty popular with the guinea hens and the other hens. Oh he has muffs I didn't even see them in the pic and that makes him all the more handsome. Or should I call them sideburns. Elvis always had the sideburns even when they went out of style.
 
I would imagine Elvis is pretty popular with the guinea hens and the other hens.  Oh he has muffs I didn't even see them in the pic and that makes him all the more handsome.  Or should I call them sideburns.  Elvis always had the sideburns even when they went out of style.  

Yep he appears to be the favored man. None of the hens put up a fuss when he mounts them. Either he has really good technique or they like him the best. If any of the other roosters try to mate, there is always a little bit of resistance from the hens. Except for Ginny, she seems to prefer Rufus for some reason in that area. Maybe because he is smaller.
 
Hi, everyone!

Once again, I have been reading along but haven't had a chance to get on the computer to reply. I always have so much to say in response to your posts and its tedious to type anything lengthy from the phone.

We just had a few weeks of bad weather. Lots of rain and the property is full of cold wet ponds. Lots of leaves fell from the winds we just had and I'm happy about that. I'm hoping to sweep them all up with the lawn tractor later today and get them in the coops and run to start composting. I had a really bad mite infestation that I had to take care of last week and the worst thing about it is that it sets back my deep litter when I have to put fresh bedding and insecticides in the coop. I thought I was going to have to put something topical on them so I bought Eprinex but so far everything looks good. I had a coupon for it, though, so I'm going to hang on to it until I worm them in January or February. I hadn't heard of Eprinex before, so I want to thank GlennLee for that information.

Pattyhen, I love hearing the stories of Spiderman and Mary Jane! They really make me laugh. It looks like Dmontgomery has brought a few more clowns to the forum as well.

One of my 8-week-old keets finally started perquacking today. Up until now a few were doing some baby two syllable sounds, so between that and one of my cockerels I knew who was female. He has been biting and mounting the female babies for the past couple of weeks now, which makes me so mad. They scream and struggle and he keeps trying to do his thing. He doesn't even try to mount any of the young chicken females, just the guineas. His dad is the head rooster and has claim on all the sexually mature chicken hens. The cockerel makes me really mad when he does that, though, but his saving grace is that he is my only other male mature enough to act like a flock guardian at this point. He is half Japanese and half Sebright bantam so he's not very large. In fact, I have a few large breed cockerels that are much larger than him, but they are sissies and don't seem interested in "roostering" very much. They started crowing a bit in the morning a while back but no longer even try it. Right now I have seventeen male chickens plus some chicks that are a few weeks old that I already suspect are male. I am trying to work up the nerve to dispatch a few of them today. Its putting a lot of tension in the flock not to mention increasing the food bill. Its hard to take that first step, though.

Back to the guineas, though, I haven't lost any of my young ones since poor Polly. They have switched from hanging out with the chickens to hanging out with my two oldest keets, the pearl pieds that are the offspring of Purple (whom I still miss!) and the white hen. They are trouble! They have been leading them around all over the place, into the soybeans, up into trees, into the road...The other day I had chickens, turkeys, and guineas all in the road right in front of the house and I had to go out there and yell at them. Once again, I am reminded of how I need to not get too attached, because sometimes these birds seem adamant about trying to get themselves killed.

The baby is doing well so far. She has been free ranging with her parents every day and I had quite a scare one day last week. I was upstairs putting clothes away and suddenly I heard the alarm call. I ran downstairs in a panic, grabbing a rifle on my way out the door. I paused on the deck to try to figure out what direction it was coming from, and it was the patch of woods closest to the house, separated from us by soybeans. I was sure it was a fox! I ran through the soybeans (no easy task as they are all tangled together) and got to the woods and saw Mama and Dad screaming into a patchy bush. I didn't see anything right away and I was afraid it was the baby in there but after a closer look it was a big rat snake. Phew! I was so relieved! I didn't see the baby anywhere, though, and I was worried. Once I arrived on scene, they calmed down though and seemed to figure I'd take over dealing with the threat. They wandered back into the soybeans and I watched the snake slither away. It may or may not have been the same one I had thrown into the soybeans after I found my cat playing with it at dusk a couple of weeks before. I followed them into the soybeans for a bit until I finally caught a glimpse of the baby back in their possession. Still breathing heavy from the adrenaline, I made my way back to the house, very grateful it wasn't a fox or hawk and everyone was okay.

The only other drama started when Mama decided she was tired of sleeping on the ground with the baby and it was time to teach her to roost. This was a little over a week ago. The first night, she and Dad tried to convince baby to fly up into a tree. I wasn't going to allow that, and luckily baby wasn't too keen on the idea, anyway. That night I put her back in her pen and they slept on the ground again. The following night, Mama decided to go into the coop and roost there, which involved biting and running all of the chickens out. After an hour of that she gave up and went outside to the turkey roost that is in the run, which meant running the turkeys off. The turkeys were aggravated but gave in. One ended up sleeping in the coop, and the other waited until it was dark and made her way back to the roost. At that point Mama couldn't see well enough to run her off again. They took over the turkey roost again the following night, but it was starting to get pretty cold at night so after that she decided to go back into the coop at night. All the fighting was really stressing me out (it was the same way at feed time) but she finally started to figure out no one is trying to assault her baby. She still chases some of the other birds a bit, but she is getting better about it. I found one of my young chickens pecked to death not long ago and I'm pretty sure it was her that did it. All in all, the experience has gone a bit like I expected, with her creating discourse and tension in the flock for a while. I am glad it is working itself out and now she is even letting baby just be one of the guinea flock though she does still mother her.





Looking at my flock, I wish I had some purples in there to offset all the light colors. Hopefully I will get some in the spring.

 
Hi Sun I'm glad all is well with you and yours. The guineas sure do try your patience don't they? I think I would have a heart attack if I saw Spiderman and Mary Jane out in the street.

I'm glad the momma guinea is taking such good care of the baby. Well maybe she is a little overprotective but I'm sure she will get less protective as the baby gets older.Your guineas are so pretty. I love the pic of the baby walking between the mom and dad. That is precious.

Take care and thanks for the update and the pics.
 
Hi, everyone! Once again, I have been reading along but haven't had a chance to get on the computer to reply. I always have so much to say in response to your posts and its tedious to type anything lengthy from the phone. We just had a few weeks of bad weather. Lots of rain and the property is full of cold wet ponds. Lots of leaves fell from the winds we just had and I'm happy about that. I'm hoping to sweep them all up with the lawn tractor later today and get them in the coops and run to start composting. I had a really bad mite infestation that I had to take care of last week and the worst thing about it is that it sets back my deep litter when I have to put fresh bedding and insecticides in the coop. I thought I was going to have to put something topical on them so I bought Eprinex but so far everything looks good. I had a coupon for it, though, so I'm going to hang on to it until I worm them in January or February. I hadn't heard of Eprinex before, so I want to thank GlennLee for that information. Pattyhen, I love hearing the stories of Spiderman and Mary Jane! They really make me laugh. It looks like Dmontgomery has brought a few more clowns to the forum as well. One of my 8-week-old keets finally started perquacking today. Up until now a few were doing some baby two syllable sounds, so between that and one of my cockerels I knew who was female. He has been biting and mounting the female babies for the past couple of weeks now, which makes me so mad. They scream and struggle and he keeps trying to do his thing. He doesn't even try to mount any of the young chicken females, just the guineas. His dad is the head rooster and has claim on all the sexually mature chicken hens. The cockerel makes me really mad when he does that, though, but his saving grace is that he is my only other male mature enough to act like a flock guardian at this point. He is half Japanese and half Sebright bantam so he's not very large. In fact, I have a few large breed cockerels that are much larger than him, but they are sissies and don't seem interested in "roostering" very much. They started crowing a bit in the morning a while back but no longer even try it. Right now I have seventeen male chickens plus some chicks that are a few weeks old that I already suspect are male. I am trying to work up the nerve to dispatch a few of them today. Its putting a lot of tension in the flock not to mention increasing the food bill. Its hard to take that first step, though. Back to the guineas, though, I haven't lost any of my young ones since poor Polly. They have switched from hanging out with the chickens to hanging out with my two oldest keets, the pearl pieds that are the offspring of Purple (whom I still miss!) and the white hen. They are trouble! They have been leading them around all over the place, into the soybeans, up into trees, into the road...The other day I had chickens, turkeys, and guineas all in the road right in front of the house and I had to go out there and yell at them. Once again, I am reminded of how I need to not get too attached, because sometimes these birds seem adamant about trying to get themselves killed. The baby is doing well so far. She has been free ranging with her parents every day and I had quite a scare one day last week. I was upstairs putting clothes away and suddenly I heard the alarm call. I ran downstairs in a panic, grabbing a rifle on my way out the door. I paused on the deck to try to figure out what direction it was coming from, and it was the patch of woods closest to the house, separated from us by soybeans. I was sure it was a fox! I ran through the soybeans (no easy task as they are all tangled together) and got to the woods and saw Mama and Dad screaming into a patchy bush. I didn't see anything right away and I was afraid it was the baby in there but after a closer look it was a big rat snake. Phew! I was so relieved! I didn't see the baby anywhere, though, and I was worried. Once I arrived on scene, they calmed down though and seemed to figure I'd take over dealing with the threat. They wandered back into the soybeans and I watched the snake slither away. It may or may not have been the same one I had thrown into the soybeans after I found my cat playing with it at dusk a couple of weeks before. I followed them into the soybeans for a bit until I finally caught a glimpse of the baby back in their possession. Still breathing heavy from the adrenaline, I made my way back to the house, very grateful it wasn't a fox or hawk and everyone was okay. The only other drama started when Mama decided she was tired of sleeping on the ground with the baby and it was time to teach her to roost. This was a little over a week ago. The first night, she and Dad tried to convince baby to fly up into a tree. I wasn't going to allow that, and luckily baby wasn't too keen on the idea, anyway. That night I put her back in her pen and they slept on the ground again. The following night, Mama decided to go into the coop and roost there, which involved biting and running all of the chickens out. After an hour of that she gave up and went outside to the turkey roost that is in the run, which meant running the turkeys off. The turkeys were aggravated but gave in. One ended up sleeping in the coop, and the other waited until it was dark and made her way back to the roost. At that point Mama couldn't see well enough to run her off again. They took over the turkey roost again the following night, but it was starting to get pretty cold at night so after that she decided to go back into the coop at night. All the fighting was really stressing me out (it was the same way at feed time) but she finally started to figure out no one is trying to assault her baby. She still chases some of the other birds a bit, but she is getting better about it. I found one of my young chickens pecked to death not long ago and I'm pretty sure it was her that did it. All in all, the experience has gone a bit like I expected, with her creating discourse and tension in the flock for a while. I am glad it is working itself out and now she is even letting baby just be one of the guinea flock though she does still mother her. Looking at my flock, I wish I had some purples in there to offset all the light colors. Hopefully I will get some in the spring.
Sun, Are all your light colored guineas lavenders and buff dundottes or others colors as well? I have both of those colors (plus a pied and a few pearl gray) and really like them, but would love to have some purples or other darker colors as well. Also, I'm happy to hear your little keet is doing well. I hope you continue to be predator free. The corn and soybeans are finally getting harvested where I live so there is no cover for fox and coyote to hide. Although I am seeing less of those, I am seeing more hawks and eagles flying over the fields looking for prey. They seem to be occasionally eyeing the keets but so far I have not lost any to them. I hope everyone continues to be predator free as well!
 


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I'm not 100% sure on a few. I tried to figure them out when they first hatched. I have lavender and coral blue, which now that the head stripes and squiggles are disappearing look identical. I also have lavender pied, and I think the others are chocolate and buff dundotte. If my blues mate with my pearl pieds I should get some purples so I might need to set up a candlelight dinner for them if at least one of the blues turned out to be male. I know meal worms will be on the menu but I'm not sure what else. The guineas are pretty picky and I don't know what's an aphrodisiac to them. I think if I put the rooster with them and let them beat up on him that gets them excited to make babies.
 
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I'm not 100% sure on a few. I tried to figure them out when they first hatched. I have lavender and coral blue, which now that the head stripes and squiggles are disappearing look identical. I also have lavender pied, and I think the others are chocolate and buff dundotte. If my blues mate with my pearl pieds I should get some purples so I might need to set up a candlelight dinner for them if at least one of the blues turned out to be male. I know meal worms will be on the menu but I'm not sure what else. The guineas are pretty picky and I don't know what's an aphrodisiac to them. I think if I put the rooster with them and let them beat up on him that gets them excited to make babies.

Sun - I think you should get that fermented mash going for that candlelight dinner!
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Hi everyone! Just had a chance to read through all the news I've been missing while we were in NC.

Patti - thank you for the tip on the Water for Elephants book. We listened to it on the car ride and both of us enjoyed it very much! I'm sorry to hear you had a prowler in the neighborhood. That's a bit scary, but I'm glad you had Spider and Mary Jane to be your watchdogs and I'll be that police officer got a kick out of them. As for the birds up on the bucket of the tractor - that's a good observation - they didn't have their little hop bench. I think the newbies have been encouraging them to do more things - some good - some not so good. The other day I couldn't find the flock and they decided to use the newly uncovered dirt along the embankment of the road to dust themselves in! Much like DMontgomery's birds using the exposed dirt from the stump grinding. You can't blame them for trying to get in a good bath. And, yes we put in air conditioning. I made that decision when it hit 105 degrees inside the barn one sunny day. There aren't any trees for shade and that was a cheaper option than buying mature trees to plant. Tonight is the first night they are roosting in the new barn. Once I have everything moved in, I'll get some pics. It was really their choice. I've been leaving the doors open and encouraging them to go inside for the past month. They spent most of the day in there today and just closed them in about an hour before sunset. They made it easy for me.

Dmontgomery - OMG! Elvis is so handsome! I have never seen a bird quite like him. His coloring is gorgeous. No wonder all the ladies love him... The 3G's are cute together and that picture of them ALL dusting is comical. Did you ever figure out what kind of guineas you have? I know Sun and guineapeeps are up on their colors / varieties. And from what I've read from people, I think a flock of guineas might be easier than just a few - depending on the characters. The more there are, the more they seem to entertain each other. However, I do notice my flock being noisier and a bit naughtier now that the regular newbie pearls have joined them. It's fun to watch the change in social structure and dynamics. Lolita and Helen were castaways and now they're like mother hens to the newbies. Of course, we lost some (now a total of 5)
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to coyotes and it really upsets the flock until they figure out their new roles. The last one to be taken was a dominant female, Lucy. It was tough to get them in for the night for a few days after she was killed. We are now at 13. They used to range out quite far, but have been staying in closer to the coop these days. I'm guessing the bug population may be less now, plus it's getting colder and that could contribute to their desire to remain at home.

pearl Guinea - welcome to BYC and this thread.
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Your pictures as beautiful - the mix of the white with the others is so striking. We all love our guineas and are happy that you posted here as well as other places on the Guinea Fowl site. And, congratulations on hatching eggs from Ebay. That was brave of you! I got my keets in the mail from JM Hatchery. They've been very healthy, so much so that our local coyotes think I now run a buffet for them. Grrrrr!!!!!

Sun - glad to read your response, but sorry to hear about your ongoing saga of running off predators. Just a part of free ranging as we've discussed previously. Sorry to hear about your mite issue. I hope you have it under control - what a pain.... Keep me posted on your thoughts and experiences on preventative deworming - especially since you have a mix of chickens, guineas and turkeys. I'm still up in the air on if I'm going to do it on a "regular" basis. We're done for now and if I decide to do it again, it won't be until next fall. I hope your rain has passed - guessing it may have been from the hurricane? A few dry days are good - everything smells better when it's dry.

Guineapeeps - I'll have to pick your brain and others who want to chime in on incubating and incubators. I'm trying to make the barn as cozy as possible to encourage nesting there in the spring, but realize I may have to go out hunting them down and moving nests. I thought I would try to do some of the hatching in an incubator as well. If there are incubators that work better than others and anyone wants to share their models, I'd be happy to start looking at them and thinking about features. Thank goodness we have a few months before then, but it will come up on us before we know it. Just like the whole egg laying did for me this year with my 4 month old guineas! They were only babies themselves and then they went and started laying eggs and copulating right in front of their mother! Go figure....
 
Sun - quick question for you - what was it the keyed you into the fact that the guineas had mites? Could you see them in the coop? On their bodies? Just wondering what I should be looking for - I regularly check the roost and area under the roost for any critters, but if I have to do body checks, well.... I don't know about that. They are not kind about being held.
 
GlennLee,
I would not be a good person to speak on incubators or incubating eggs. I tried my hand at it one season and did not have a great hatch rate. I'm not sure if it was my incubator, my lack of skill, or the eggs. About 3 years ago, I had a friend give me 40 guinea eggs to incubate. I'm thinking some may have been pretty old or unfertilized, as about half did not develop at all. Out of the remaining eggs, I had about a 50% hatch rate. I did try to incubate one other small batch of my own eggs and that didnt do much better. My hens have a much higher success rate than that, so I try to let them do it themselves now! Plus, I tend to get more attached to the keets if I hatch them myself, and I cant keep them all! :( Although I am tempted to tell you not to buy the incubator that I have, I am hesitant to do this because I'm not completely sure it was the incubator's fault in my situation. Because of this, I will let others comment on this since I'm not very knowledgable in this area. As I said above, my guinea hens are pretty successful in hatching their own, so if I can be of any help in that area, please let me know. I'm certainly no expert and can't really take the credit since the guineas do all the work, but I'm happy to share any info I have or lessons learned!
 

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