GUNK & PROLAPSE WON'T GO BACK IN

[FMD0808]

I am new to this forum and joined after reading a very informative article by one of the members about how to handle prolapses. I spotted Josie's prolapse on Thursday and took her to the vet on Friday as it wouldn't go back in. Since Friday she is on antibiotics and an anti-inflammary and calcium supplement (not sure if it is calcium citrate ... it is added to drinking water and can't see composition on label which is in Dutch and French). I am going to try and buy calcium citrate tomorrow, just hope it is called the same in French (I live in France). Josie is 17 months old and has always laid double-yolkers, huge eggs and then shell-less eggs. Occasionally she will do a good one, but not that often. Her vent is therefore quite loose. The vet said it will be difficult to give her a stitch to tighten it, because it will affect her laying. If I could stop her laying altogether, then I would. She is totally happy in herself and doesn't appear to be suffering at all. One of the things I am really struggling with is removing all the gunk. I have soaked her in epsom salt bath, but I can't dislodge all of it. The vet said the white gunk was diarrhoea but I am really not sure. She also has a lot of clear fluid dripping out. So, after reading a lot of the articles and posts on here, it seems that the prolapse will not go back in if she is still trying to push out an egg BUT the second day of the prolapse, she actually laid a good egg, so that makes me think she hasn't one stuck, however as soon as I push it in and hold it, back out it comes. She is really sore and there is some blood, but she is so happy in herself. Any help would be greatly appreciated, especially on how to remove the gunk. Thank you so much for reading and possibly helping and sorry for the graphic photo!

 

[Jaf5]

I too have a hen with a hard deposit stuck in/ half out of the vent. About ten days ago, I gave her a long soak in warm water with Palmolive dish detergent, then massaged the vent which was red and distended. Eventually a lump of manure golf ball size came out, then another the size of a walnut. Then I gently pulled off a thin layer of black tar-like material from the upper lip, then the lower lip. (Amazing how the vent resembles a small set of human lips, only white, not pink.)
Whitey is a three-year old Columbia Rock who lets me pick her up and carry her with legs dangling. She is soaking on the laundry tub right now, because she has hard stuff stuck half-way out the vent again. This time I can’t get it dislodged, and it is after midnight, and I need an idea what to do. I found her under the hen house pecking on pink foam insulation (styrene) and that might be the cause of the black liquid manure she struggles to expell. She follows me around going “Cuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuck!”
Any body see this kind of thing before?

 

[Jaf5]

So now it is nearly 2AM. I succeeded in breaking off two pieces of manure thumb nail size, clipped off some feathers around the vent, rubbed her with a towel, and blew warm air on her (50 degrees Celsius, keeping the blower in motion so as not to overheat any spot). Now she is in a big cardboard box with straw in the bottom and a gallon jug of warm water beside her. She is very thin now, and Columbia Rock is not a big bird to begin with. Hope I can pull her through this.
Does anyone have some good advice?
Any vets out there?

I too have a hen with a hard deposit stuck in/ half out of the vent. About ten days ago, I gave her a long soak in warm water with Palmolive dish detergent, then massaged the vent which was red and distended. Eventually a lump of manure golf ball size came out, then another the size of a walnut. Then I gently pulled off a thin layer of black tar-like material from the upper lip, then the lower lip. (Amazing how the vent resembles a small set of human lips, only white, not pink.)
Whitey is a three-year old Columbia Rock who lets me pick her up and carry her with legs dangling. She is soaking on the laundry tub right now, because she has hard stuff stuck half-way out the vent again. This time I can’t get it dislodged, and it is after midnight, and I need an idea what to do. I found her under the hen house pecking on pink foam insulation (styrene) and that might be the cause of the black liquid manure she struggles to expell. She follows me around going “Cuckcuckcuckcuckcuckcuck!”
Any body see this kind of thing before?

 

[Jaf5]

Glory be! Never thought I’d be happy to see chicken manure, but my Columbia Rock made droppings during the night, and not thin, black stuff like before, but more consistant black stuff. This morning I gave her another blow dry session, a half hour at 50 Celsius (about 120 Fahrenheit) blowing the feathers from the back so they ruffle up, and keeping the blower moving back and forth about six inches away. The old hen sat there with her eyes closed and seemed to enjoy it. Then I put a liberal amount of George’s Special Hand Cream on her vent. Now she is sitting on the divider of the laundry tub eating chick starter moistened with water and a drop of cider vinegar. I gave her some aged cheddar cheese which she ate like it was going out of style. It should get her gut bacteria back into balance.

 

[Eggcessive]

I am new to this forum and joined after reading a very informative article by one of the members about how to handle prolapses. I spotted Josie's prolapse on Thursday and took her to the vet on Friday as it wouldn't go back in. Since Friday she is on antibiotics and an anti-inflammary and calcium supplement (not sure if it is calcium citrate ... it is added to drinking water and can't see composition on label which is in Dutch and French). I am going to try and buy calcium citrate tomorrow, just hope it is called the same in French (I live in France). Josie is 17 months old and has always laid double-yolkers, huge eggs and then shell-less eggs. Occasionally she will do a good one, but not that often. Her vent is therefore quite loose. The vet said it will be difficult to give her a stitch to tighten it, because it will affect her laying. If I could stop her laying altogether, then I would. She is totally happy in herself and doesn't appear to be suffering at all. One of the things I am really struggling with is removing all the gunk. I have soaked her in epsom salt bath, but I can't dislodge all of it. The vet said the white gunk was diarrhoea but I am really not sure. She also has a lot of clear fluid dripping out. So, after reading a lot of the articles and posts on here, it seems that the prolapse will not go back in if she is still trying to push out an egg BUT the second day of the prolapse, she actually laid a good egg, so that makes me think she hasn't one stuck, however as soon as I push it in and hold it, back out it comes. She is really sore and there is some blood, but she is so happy in herself. Any help would be greatly appreciated, especially on how to remove the gunk. Thank you so much for reading and possibly helping and sorry for the graphic photo!

It could be that her vent is damaged from all of the extra large eggs, shell-less eggs which are harder to lay and may cause egg binding, and the prolapse. Vent pecking can also lead to damage. I would soak her for 20 minutes per day in warm Epsom salts, and rub the white areas with a cloth to see if it comes off. That is like debriding a wound. Then apply a layer of plain neosporin afterward.

 

[FMD0808]

It could be that her vent is damaged from all of the extra large eggs, shell-less eggs which are harder to lay and may cause egg binding, and the prolapse. Vent pecking can also lead to damage. I would soak her for 20 minutes per day in warm Epsom salts, and rub the white areas with a cloth to see if it comes off. That is like debriding a wound. Then apply a layer of plain neosporin afterward.

Thanks for your input. I have been bathing her in Epsom salts each day and working on the white gunk. There are two spots I cannot shift, it is solid and stuck to her. Unfortunately she has been on antibiotics the last 5 days and unknowingly I cancelled out the good effect of these by putting apple cider vinegar in her water, so I am going to ask vet for another course of antibiotics. The white gunk just keeps on coming!