Hands on hatching and help

Discussion in 'Incubating & Hatching Eggs' started by AmyLynn2374, Feb 11, 2016.

  1. Laurel Meadows

    Laurel Meadows Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi and sorry it took me so long to reply. My 2 youngest kids have been sick and I ended up getting it too [​IMG] For your chicks with the dried residue, you can use a washcloth with warm water to remove it. If it's really stuck on, you'll need to get them pretty wet but keep the water plenty warm and get the chick back under heat quickly. Watch the nostrils as you clean the face and head. I actually had one this hatch that the eyes sealed shut! Congrats on your BLRW's!! I hope the others are making progress this morning. If membranes look dried and yellow or brown, you can wet them carefully with water on a q tip or can try applying a bit of triple antibiotic ointment with a q tip to the exposed membrane being VERY careful not to apply water or ointment around the nostrils. This should help keep the membranes from drying out further. Sometimes wrong end pippers hatch just fine on their own. I had 3 last week: 2 chicks hatched with no help needed, 1 needed help. They don't internally pip like a large end pip so when you see them at the wrong end, they seem to take longer to start zipping slower but that chick is actually just starting to breathe air and still needs time to rest and absorb the blood and yolk. Chicks that pip into the air cell normally have started this process before the external pip. I give them 24 hours after pipping (right or wrong end) before I think about intervening. Also, are your hygrometers calibrated? If not, your humidity readings could be off and you may be running lower than you think which might explain some of the drying issues going on.
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  2. AmyLynn2374

    AmyLynn2374 Humidity Queen

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    So, the last 48 hours the incubator has been pretty stable staying between 99.5-100 on both sides. I've kept the humidity up so the air cells on the silkies and Spitz look good and are evening out. The air cells on the greens aren't progressing, so in a couple days I will probably pull them and incubate them under the brooder's heat light for a couple days w/o internal humidity and see if I can get those to increase independantly and then stick them back in. Tonight will be the start of day 9. It appears that one of the Spitz is quitting on me. It's the first one collected, so it's the oldest one and was at day 10 when set. There are very few veins, the egg is more transparent. It still looked as though it was moving, but I don't suspect that it will be viable.
     
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  3. JillZ

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    HI! Doing great. Took 5 out of the incubator and into the brooder. Happily eating and drinking after giving them a bath to remove the "sticky". 4 of those 5 were from the shipped eggs! So that's great. [​IMG]
    Started assisting this morning at 7 am for the very first pipper. It had been 36 or so hours at that point, so I made the decision to help. At the same time, took out the 5 hatched chicks, tossed in the sponge and grabbed the shells.

    Okay. So would really like advice to make sure I'm giving my one chick the best chance I can give. Removed the egg in a warm, wet washcloth. While in the washcloth and under a heat lamp, started chipping at the shell with tweezers. Basically made almost a full zip. Carefully started peeling membrane until I ran into some very tiny veins that were still very red. So stopped at that point. Opened the pip area a little bit, not much there. Wrapped in a warm/wet paper towel (not covering the pip hole) and put back in the incubator.

    He still doesn't seem to be progressing though. Still breathing and every once in awhile chirping, but not really pushing or trying to break the shell. Also, the inner membrane was not shrunk in and was still very moist. Actually even the outer white membrane was not hard or rubbery and not stuck down to the chick.

    What would be my next step? And have I gone about this the right way so far?

    Have 3 Copper Marans rocking and 1 pipping. I'm thinking that possibly 6/12 of the shipped eggs may be a fairly good result? Also, I feel that for me, having a "dry" hatch and then really boosting humidity on lockdown is probably the best approach. Especially with the fan going and so many ventilation holes. At 68 pct humidity, seems that they were really struggling, but at 80-83 on hatch they popped out pretty well. So weird that everyone's process is So different. Even with the exact same incubator and in the same general area of the country.

    Excited!!!!!!![​IMG]
     
  4. pipAchick

    pipAchick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Oopsies...upon cleaning out one of the brooders earlier I looked down& Realizied how silly life is at times. The irony,,,
    Any idea how old a chick is when it can read?[​IMG]
     
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  5. AmyLynn2374

    AmyLynn2374 Humidity Queen

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    That's great news.

    Sounds like you are on the right track. I usually give my assists 45 minutes to and hour and if they show no sign of progress I attempt to do a little more and just repeat this.
    Every egg is different so, I think that accounts for a lot of the differences plus the hatcher's habits themselves will affect things.
    I aim for 75% at hatch and it goes up to 85%+ once they start. It really is about finding what works for you-the hatcher.
     
  6. JillZ

    JillZ Out Of The Brooder

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    He's HATCHING!!!!! Woot!!! So excited.

    I'm glad to know that you hatch at a higher humidity. Gives me a little more confidence.
     
  7. AmyLynn2374

    AmyLynn2374 Humidity Queen

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    Most hatchers recommend against using newspaper in the brooders because it's easier for little feet to slip on newspaper and straddle or pull their tendon. But that is funny.
     
  8. AmyLynn2374

    AmyLynn2374 Humidity Queen

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    I don't believe that hatch humidity is too high unless there's condensation. From the first pip on, I am more comfortable with higher humidity than lower.
     
  9. Ravynscroft

    Ravynscroft For the Love of Duck Premium Member

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    Calm down and take a deep breath... was there any foul smell at all? If not, then I'd say not bacteria contamination... at day 21, they are 3/4 of the way done... they will look dark, and sometimes it looks yucky, but don't worry... if there is movement, then they are alive... I've had many I was sure were quitters that ended up hatching... so if the egg doesn't smell, just leave it in... the only ones that could explode are stinkers, so there's no harm in leaving a quitter in longer...
    Oh, and as the 'ling gets bigger, so do the veins to move more blood... they might look off, but I'd just wait it out and see...



    Yeah, I'd wait on trying Calls for a bit... they're much more nerve wracking, lol...



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    Thanks! Must be why I keep hatching them! :lau
     
  10. Sarkchick

    Sarkchick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ravyn, Cyndi has blue, chocolate, and fawn/white. They could be a mix of any of those. I now have a final total of 12 out of
    21 shipped eggs. I'm very happy.
     

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